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[–] Runaway-White-Slave 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

How does it feel knowing so many of these people probably aren't even suffering Dementia/Alzheimer's but have simply grown further and further from meaningful, to them, human interaction and have just went off the deep end like even younger people who've been; abused, neglected, completely ostracized have done?

I used to work at ALF/Group Homes that dealt with everyone from young people who went on drug trips and didn't return enough to suit their loved ones and society, to dementia patients. I know for a fact a percentage of people at the places I worked at weren't that mentally ill, weren't incapable of functioning in society, and could hold some form of meaningful conversation with you if they felt you genuinely cared. I had a couple of them helping me with duties around one of the group homes simply to help maintain their senses of worth.

It upset me and I had to quit, a lot of the people were just simply discarded, rejected by family, rejected by friends, rejected by everyone, and so they started rejecting the world back and all a sudden they "needed" drugged and denied basic human rights? Being that I even saw that in young people, where something had hurt them and caused them to withdraw, caused them to construct some amount of false reality fantasy world they didn't feel obliged to leave, yet were still fully capable of interacting and separating from the fantasy, which often took some coaxing.... Anyway, just knowing that so many of them really weren't all that "gone", yet being coercively drugged into oblivion, I have absolutely no doubt the same thing is going on with the elderly. Which is why I ask how does it feel being in the position of their captors?

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[–] CleatusMaximus [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The people here cannot take care of themselves, they need care 24/7, some came from organic disease process others had mechanical accidents that caused their brain to "malfunction".Old people and young people, you can tell from the way people act if its a process like alzheimers or an injury like a TBI or traumatic brain injury.

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[–] vonHugenbuben 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I know a lady who is perfectly lovely, charming, and articulate, when she takes her meds. We are not allowed to force her to take meds so she ends up in hospital every couple months. She becomes completely deranged and is a danger to herself and others. Do you want her living next door to you? Regardless of your personal experience, there is a huge number of people who simply do not fit into society through no fault of their own. They need a place to live and be taken care of. Also, you have to be a certain level of functioning to live in ALF. So the people you were working with were more stable than those in LTC. We are not captors, we are caregivers. Thanks.

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[–] Damnpasswords 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You're not, the outside doctors that force people in out of laziness are. I was thrice almost institutionalized for losing linguistic cohesiveness with two different psychiatrists (once each) when talking about my month on the brink of death, years of malpractice caused pain, and my rape.

The first was convinced that I was always incapable of forming a coherent thought (because the office was a "safe space" (in the basement of a rec center, hat you had to wade through a crowd of people to get in/out) The second? I had loaned a few grand to my dad and found out that he almost made my mother homeless through what equated to a knife sales job (I'll get you you fuckers, you robbed an old autistic man, I going to print your deaths and send them to your families...in my next life) and the (Patel) doctor thought that me being upset was due to bipolar disorder. (Not fielding collection calls to my mom)

I had to fight tooth and nail to stay free. Why? Laziness and ineptitude

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[–] CleatusMaximus [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

agreed its not always the fantasy land people want it to be, especially if short staffed and under served it can be quite daunting. For the most part people help others because they want to and like i said in an earlier comment, those that do it for the money dont last long.