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[–] AmaleksHairyAss 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

How are patients' rights protected in reality as opposed to regulation?

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[–] CleatusMaximus [S] 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Depending on where you work, patients rights have at times interfered with medical care. To the point where in some states you have a bureaucratic wall of paperwork and auditors that will happily take your license away for a perceived injustice. For example, a bed being pushed into the corner (so its up against the wall, is considered a "restraint" as it "inhibits pts freedom of movement").There are people out there that will tell you how awful things are, but those people never see all the time and effort and even money we put into taking care of our patients. The aspect of "the customer is always right" has crept into medicine with the use of the internet (dr google) to the point where lay people think they know everything that they need (if they did they wouldn't be at a hospital or MD) but in reality its the worst thing that people can do, people now think they know more then MD and experienced nurses cause they have a smartphone.

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[–] AmaleksHairyAss 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I have friends and family who were incarcerated in mental institutions, so don't tell me it's all sunshine and rainbows. When I say "restraint" I usually mean being left without food or water in a cold padded room in a straightjacket for 23 hours per day. So are you jerking my chain or are you honestly claiming patients rights are actually protected?

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[–] 8723111? 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

The aspect of "the customer is always right" has crept into medicine with the use of the internet (dr google) to the point where lay people think they know everything that they need (if they did they wouldn't be at a hospital or MD) but in reality its the worst thing that people can do, people now think they know more then MD and experienced nurses cause they have a smartphone.

Typical practitioner arrogance.

http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/media/releases/study_suggests_medical_errors_now_third_leading_cause_of_death_in_the_us

"The researchers caution that most of medical errors aren’t due to inherently bad doctors, and that reporting these errors shouldn’t be addressed by punishment or legal action. Rather, they say, most errors represent systemic problems, including poorly coordinated care, fragmented insurance networks, the absence or underuse of safety nets, and other protocols, in addition to unwarranted variation in physician practice patterns that lack accountability."

It also doesn't help the industry does everything it can to jew Medicaid and Medicare for all it can. Maybe people would have more trust if they weren't worried their on-the-ass-end-of-his-30-hour-shift doctor was going to kill them, or let their health suffer so they can run a couple more CT scans because their insurance will cover it.

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[–] obvious-throwaway- 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

in reality its the worst thing that people can do, people now think they know more then MD and experienced nurses cause they have a smartphone.

Had a sick kid once, doctor just kept prescribing more antibiotics. I implored with the doctor that something else must be wrong and as my kid keeps getting sicker. Ended up taking him to the ER 8 times. The first 7 doctors at the ER said they couldn't find anything wrong with him. 8th doctor asked about his stool sample and learned that neither his primary doctor or the previous 7 doctors had done one. Stool sample showed he had c-diff. Took this information back to primary doctor, he suggested... more antibiotics. He got sicker and again his doctor suggested, you guessed it, more antibiotics.

Finally having enough, I reached out to the Internet and found a large support group of people also finding state licensed drug dealers pretty much useless. Hundreds of them had logged daily diets and created charts on the most favorable diets that had worked on curbing c-diff. I put my kid on the top diet and he was doing so much better after 1 day. Within a month he was retested and completely cured of c-diff without ever taking another antibiotic. The entire ordeal lasted 8 months and could have been taken care of in 2 weeks. Oh, and were he did he even get c-diff in the first place? From going to the hospital with the flu and picking it up there because of their inability to maintain a sterile environment.

Also, I find nurses to be the absolute worst. They have MD envy and like to tell people their "opinion" as opposed to actually going through all the steps to at least become an MD before dispensing medical advice. I think they should STFU and stick to cleaning bed pans or whatever simple tasks they were trained to do so the actual doctors can focus on their job of prescribing medicine for big pharma.