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[–] gummyboar 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Well I don't think it is retarded. The idea is that your testosterone rises giving you more energy and drive to do something with your life. I btw have not fully abstained from jerking off, I go as long as I can go. Its harder then you would think (no pun intended). I now have held my part time job for longer then i have ever held a job before in my life. I work out multiple times a week and I have lost 15 pounds doing so. I actually want to see my friends and family.

I see it as it works for some people. If you don't have a testosterone and jerking off multiple times a day issue it most likely wont make a difference. I was open minded about it and hey it has helped.

I have been in the same boat as you with the anti depressants and the counseling. Both were a waste of time for me and I think most people who are truly depressed have that experience.