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[–] PeaceSeeker ago 

You must not know much about Christian Africa. You should look into the eye witness accounts of the Holy Ghost Fathers such as Archbishop Lefebvre and what they perceived occurring in the African people after receiving Baptism. If baptized Africans were given the same amount of time to civilize as Christian Europe had, they would be unrecognizable from what they are now -- just as modern Europeans are unrecognizable from their pre-Baptismal predecessors.

Yes, there were pre-Christian European civilizations. There were pre-Christian African civilizations too. Architecture and plumbing does not a civilization make - morality does, and it is Christianity that cured Europe of its pagan traditions, such as usury, slavery, and sexual immorality. It was Christian Europe that allowed the founding of hospitals and real schools, or a real intellectual tradition, of mobilized labour and real societal morality in conformity with natural law. Only ignorance of history enables one to dismiss the invaluable role Christianity has played for civilization in general.

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[–] Inquisitioner 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

If baptized Africans were given the same amount of time to civilize as Christian Europe had, they would be unrecognizable from what they are now

Genetics proves otherwise. Most traits are around 0.5 heritability, and intelligence becomes 0.75-0.82 heritable by age 24. Political and ideological inclinations are also significantly heritable, at around 0.5. In fact, there is currently a search to find any trait that ISN'T significantly affected by genes. But on top of this, we know the averages vary by race, and of the specific genes that have been isolated pertaining to aggression, delay of gratification, intelligence, height, BMI, you name it, they all vary by race to a significant degree. No amount of education or faith is going to change what is coded into our very flesh, and it is arrogance of the highest degree to think that we are somehow "above" the biological reality of human nature.

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[–] PeaceSeeker ago  (edited ago)

It is not we that are above our own nature - we are our own nature. It is God Who is above us, and what grace He chooses to give us is far more important than the nature that grace perfects.

Obviously our characteristics are genetically linked - insofar as they are corporeal characteristics. However it is a materialist blunder to assume corporeal characteristics determine behaviour. It is the free will that determines behaviour, and the free will is incorporeal - although obviously united with the body, including the brain, but it is just as obviously not entirely reducible to the body and brain, as any neurologist or behavioural psychologist will be first to admit. Many attempts have been made to explain the mind on purely materialist terms but all have failed. The simple fact of the matter is that in order for the scientific equality of brain = consciousness to be made, a conceptual distinction must be drawn (in the way that there exists a clear conceptual distinction between H2O and water), but this has not and cannot be achieved. There is simply no reconciling the immateriality of the experience of consciousness with the material of the brain and body. Materialism is a faith that disintegrates under its own weight, as can be seen the moment a materialist, who claims to serve Truth, attempts to explain how Truth or any of the other immaterial principles upon which he depends can possibly be fully reduced to matter.

Once it is understood that man is a physical being, which as Dr Wolfgang Smith explains, means he is a material or corporeal body with an immaterial system or "form" (just as Aristotle and St. Thomas Aquinas assert, who were both individually 10 times more intelligent than the most enlightened of all materialists); once this is understood, and the immaterial nature of man's soul, and therefore his intellect and free will as well, then it no longer becomes an issue understanding how something immaterial like grace, which is greater than man, can have such a profound effect.

This worldview, which is no more based on faith than the materialist view, since materialism also supposes unfalsifiably that all things are reducible to matter/energy within time/space...this worldview is the most coherent of all worldviews, and does not struggle to explain anything, like the many highly skilled, moral, intelligent pure-blooded Africans who far exceed in work ethic and morality the degenerate pure-blooded Europeans of the modern West (see Cardinal Serah, whose parents were totem-worshipping pagans while he himself, after accepting Baptism and all the grace associated with it, has achieved the second-highest position within the Catholic Church and is a brilliant high-IQ Thomist besides. And again I reference the Holy Ghost Fathers and the revolutionary transformations of African societies they witnessed as they went through baptizing the pagans of Africa. Cardinal Serah is one such example of this very missionary activity). Needless to say, the biological determinists are powerless to explain this dynamic in the modern world without making ridiculous assertions, like all successful Africans have some small amount of magic European DNA somewhere in their history, while at the same time the degenerate Europeans have all been "lulled" by chemicals in the water that are turning thr frogs gay...

Your worldview is incoherent and fatally flawed and will NEVER in a million years or more approach the coherence, beauty and Truth of the Catholic faith...because the doctrine of the Church is one with the essence of God, which is unchangeable Truth itself.