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[–] Doglegwarrior ago 

i guess i need a new term to describe my self. i believe something made all this we live in i dont think christians or any other religion know what it is.

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[–] 22041178? ago  (edited ago)

Well then you're a theist either way. The question of whether you're an agnostic or gnostic theist depends on whether you think you know something made us or know you know something made us.

"Gnosticism" means "knowing" (agnosticism means "not knowing"). There also is a religious school of thought derived from Christianity called "Gnosticism", confusing matters further. This school of thought essentially says that there is an Unknowable Actual God that exists in an uncreated and immaterial world, and below him there is a false creator God that demands worship and imprisons us within the material world forcing us to be its servants. Some call this false god the Demiurge, and essentially what this line of reasoning says is that the God of the Bible and Torah is in fact Satan, while Lucifer (a name with an entirely different chain of associations in the bible from Satan, no one who has read the whole bible can come to the conclusion that Lucifer and Satan are the same being) is a messenger sent by the Unknowable Actual God to give us the tools to liberate ourselves from the material world.

Basically "agnostic theist" means "I think there's a God but can't be sure" and that's what most people are (and some atheists foolishly insist everyone is, because of course they don't know so surely no one else can know). "Gnostic theist" means "I know there's a God". "I'm a Gnostic" means you subscribe to a certain category of beliefs that are very very different from mainstream Christianity. "I'm an agnostic" means "IDK lol".

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[–] Doglegwarrior ago 

agnostic theist sounds about right for me. thanks for the clarification and information...well writtten and thought out.