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[–] the_wisconsonite 0 points 67 points (+67|-0) ago 

Alright you degenerates, if you're as big of a noob in regards to body armor as I am, here is a handy little graphic guide for you. I hope you find it useful.

http://i.magaimg.net/img/2x8s.jpg

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[–] Justsomeone 1 points 31 points (+32|-1) ago 

That is actually pretty helpful.

Thanks, faggot.

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[–] Nukeemhighasfuck 0 points 32 points (+32|-0) ago 

Man I love voat.

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[–] the_wisconsonite 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Yer welcome, bitch :)

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[–] androgynous-icicle 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I'm suddenly wondering if it is actually reasonable to wear body armor while at a place people are shooting. Accidents happen and even the most gun loving among us has to admit that more gun related accidents should happend where people are using guns.

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[–] Feldgrau_Katze 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

Normal gun club and indoor ranges would probably scoff and chortle at you for oper8ing, but i'd feel safer wearing plates at some of the national forest/public lands shooting pits where there's a lot of fucking retards doing fuckass retard shit.

But the only time I've been hit, was by a ricochet at an indoor range. Guy was warned multiple times to stop firing across lanes until I caught a piece and they threw him out. Turns out he was a cop.

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[–] RacistJew 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

It makes the most sense to wear it shooting.

A) safety B) train like you fight

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[–] the_wisconsonite 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I mean the RSOs and other range-goers will probably look at the armor-wearer wearily and wonder wtf he is planning, and if one were to tell them that one was worried about accidents, then the other range patrons will probably be offended by the apparent lack of faith in their safe firearm handling abilities...

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[–] ChickenChucker 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

nothin wrong with oper9ing like nutnfancy dude.

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[–] FireAnt 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'm assuming every type of armor also covers the calibers to the left of it?

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[–] Feldgrau_Katze 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

yupp, excluding .22 ratshot of course

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[–] the_wisconsonite 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I see no reason why they wouldn't and that would be my assumption as well, yes.

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[–] ThirteenthZodiac 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Whereabouts you from, friend?

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[–] the_wisconsonite 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I'm not your fwiend, buddy!

And I'm from...Reddit! :P

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[–] kasthegikes 1 points 20 points (+21|-1) ago 

Reminder that level 3 isnt sufficient for the upcoming racewar. But everyone should own armor for training and protection

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[–] ElectricBookie 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

High speed low drag baby. To be fair, the Wolverines got the majority of their gear off of baddies

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[–] RacistJew 1 points 12 points (+13|-1) ago 

Yeah but WTF am I gonna do with gold spray painted hipoints after killing a bunch of niggers?

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[–] fuckredditandspez 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

To be fair, the Wolverines got the majority of their gear off of baddies

Did you even see the movie? The best scene in the movie is when they go to sporting good store for supplies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_tVmnM4Xfo

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[–] tadorno [S] 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Level 3 stops .556 and 7.62, and I doubt many people are going to be carrying armor piercing.

But I do agree, that's why I have 3+

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[–] allthe_gundams 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

There are videos of AR500 Armor's level 3 plates letting a M193 round pass though. M193 is the bare minimum 5.56 rifle round that this armor should stop.

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[–] kasthegikes 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

.556 Level 3 does not stop '5.56' at it's full velocity. It will punch straight through - go to youtube. It will stop 7.62 because it's a slower round.

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[–] THREEtoSIXfeetUNDER 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Reaching

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[–] Fuzzycrumpkin 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Body armor is nice but I would actually prefer to do without it. I found that while deployed an IBA was just cumbersome and slowed you down while also doing a number on your stamina. maybe without the plates? but once you start adding the additional weight from your combat load, even without the rucksack you still are still gonna suffer from severe mobility problems.

I would actually prefer that an enemy not know I was there and have high mobility when I need to exfil. Ive had to run a mock Mogadishu mile and I can tell you it is not something that you should do to yourself if you can avoid it. Also, it would be a mistake if you take ques from call of duty. CoD is akin to being harry potter level of fantasy. unless your in a unit where you can afford to be ambushed so the armor actually means something... your better off adopting sniper tactics. You should aim to never be seen by the enemy as a lone wolf, and the only time they do know you're there is if you can safely eliminate one or two and then leave before any reinforcements can get there to take you out.

The people that decide go rambo are the idiots that end up dead real quick. Why do you think that toward the end Iraq they were only using snipers, mortars and IEDs to attack us? because we killed all the idiots that came at us with AKs.

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[–] RacistJew 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Depends on the mission. Home defense, I would prefer to get it on if I can. Full blown civil war, sure, be a sniper, but more realistically, in a societal breakdown their will be a multitude of factions running around being violent fucks.

Can't stay hidden in the shadows 24/7.

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[–] Fuzzycrumpkin 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Actually I think it is easier to stay hidden in utter chaos. The loudest things tend to draw the most attention in a fire fight. While a sniper is the most deadly, people will instinctively focus on the people making the noise right in front of them. However I think there is a common misconception about war, it isn't constant combat. A lot of it is boring as fuck. In fact most of war was boring as fuck until some leave an IED on your road some random day. It is why they say complacency is a soldiers worst enemy, because nothing can happen months on end and you can only keep your alert level up for SO long.

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[–] spookybm 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Dont be a punana naner, my ffl was 40lbs of C4, a vallon, 270 5.56 NATOs, MRE, 5 litres of water, a dump pouch of cookies, 4 plates on carrier, M16A4 with all accessories PEQ/PVQ/Surefire/ACOG/M10 Bayonet, 2 flares, 10lbs of TNT, 3 lbs of det cord and igniters, an AT4, and .... My pen.

Effective pointman, amirite?
Marine Corps logic.

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[–] Fuzzycrumpkin 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Lol, trying to get up from prone like that.... once your down your staying there. Even taking a knee, after awhile it is just painful. I had a similar setup except change the at4 for a 240B and I had an m4. They tried to make me also haul a m203 and those rounds plus the radio... but I was intelligent enough to know how to take off the 203 and turn it back into the armorer. That is on top of feeling like the stay puft marshmallow man in that armor.

Military is definitely stupid with some of their equipment allocations. Then some fobbit has some bright idea about a uniform change, and all of a sudden your carrying 30 extra pounds of useless crap. Who the hell thought up side plates!? Why not just issue medieval armor and be done with it? At least that might be easier on my back... I swear I think I was like a couple inches shorter at the end of the day from all that weight on my spine.

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[–] bnolsen 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Aren't these simple 2 plate systems a decent compromise that hopefully can deflect say 50% or more of what might hit you? I understand about the bulk and heat, but truly no protection is still the best?

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[–] RefugeeOper9r 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Elite operators still duct tape a second plate on their back to handle multiple .338 hits

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[–] androgynous-icicle 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I'm not on either side of this argument, but who is your argument target toward.

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[–] z0m0 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

This seems super cheap for body armor plates and a carrier. Does anyone have any idea what the quality level is on these?

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[–] Mr_Sir 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

There are youtube/hooktube videos of it being tested out. Rule of thumb, don't get hit more than once.

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[–] spookybm 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Theyre steel arent they?
Would assume they can take more hits than a E Sapi.

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[–] FridayNiteGoatParade 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I need something capable of taking multiple hits of .338 lapua though.

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[–] JefftheBaptist 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The problem is that the super cheap option is flat plates (which are very uncomfortable) that are level III (so won't stop .55 grain 5.56 NATO) with only a base coat (will not prevent injury from bullet breakup). Basically the low price is to suck you in, but you should pay for upgrades like single curve and build up coat. You really should consider buying III+ for the extra protection which isn't even offered in this deal.

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[–] SavageRuger 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If you want a cheaper option (I almost went with this but opted for 3+ lightweight plates as well as the multi curve, I figure if I ever need it Ill want it to be comfortable/actually wear it, those options would have been more than an additional +$100 at least)

I went with Scorpion Tactical plates and then purchased the plate carrier in this post, bringing total under $270. I could always buy mag pouches/holsters and would still be money ahead. Scorpion tactical uses AR500 steel - its typically cheaper to 'build' your own armor set up. Lightweight plates will save you at least 4lbs or more depending on the cut and style of the plate

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[–] Dudesocks 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That plate carrier is garbage. Plastic buckles on the shoulders? Those will be broken after a week of training.

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[–] spiceguys 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I like ar500s carrier/armor packages. Ordered one with ifak 10 days ago, still waiting for it to ship

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[–] SavageRuger 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Do you have the link to the one with an ifak?

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[–] spookybm 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

IFAK is optional additon at order

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[–] Kal 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Back in the day I heard that buying body armor would get you put on a list. Not the case anymore?

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[–] tadorno [S] 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

Probably still does. But we're on Voat, so good chance we're all on a list anyway

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[–] Kal 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Voat is the list.

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[–] My-Name-is-Mud 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Embrace the lists. Be one with the lists.

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[–] baphometsrage 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Become the lists. If we all are, none of us are

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[–] ComputeGuy 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This carrier airshit tier Condor or will it hold up?

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[–] tadorno [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

There are ones on their website that are Condor and they specifically state it. This one doesn't say anything about Condor, so I'm guessing not

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[–] More_Bort 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Friends don’t let friends buy AR500.

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[–] notanog 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Are you the state of Illinois?

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[–] More_Bort 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

How would that be relevant?

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