Archived The Question Nobody Is Asking: Should POTUS Declare Martial Law? (GreatAwakening)
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Archived The Question Nobody Is Asking: Should POTUS Declare Martial Law? (GreatAwakening)
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[–] Fawkes_in_Henhouse 0 points 8 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago
Should POTUS Declare Martial Law?
ABSOLUTELY NOT! This is what the left wants most. It's better to stay with his current approach. If things start to get nasty, all of the things intended when our founding fathers gave us the 2nd amendment will start to happen. It's better for Trump to defend our rights to defend ourselves than be branded as a dictator by declaring martial law.
[–] Intlrnt2 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Not at this time.
[–] mark7 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Maybe AFTER the election. Over reacting is what the DS is trying to provoke. We R winning, this isn't the time for rash action.
[–] CMAnon [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
After 90 days of escalating lawlessness nationwide it’s no longer over reacting. Election or not, right is right. Acting to preserve life and property would insure POTUS victory. Silent majority will see to that.
[–] mark7 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
A lot of (still) good people would not see it that way. The rule of Law provides remedies by the dozens. Anyone espousing some martial bullshit at this point (is simply an agent provocateur). PDJT has this. If you don't think so, maybe you are at the wrong sub. Or I am.
[–] CMAnon [S] 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Under reacting is worse. Innocents die because of political gamesmanship? Doing the right thing now to stop the mobs and unleashing anons to do their thing to meme MSM to death for being accomplices and promoting death and destruction. He can stop the violence and win the PR war after saving lives and property when Dem governors failed to act.
[–] mark7 ago
Well, I'll go with the Prez. If/when he says jump, it's froggy time. If you act against lawful authority, then you R an insurrectionist. Show me one (provable) unlawful or corrupt action by 45, and then you can talk about your lil rebellion. Until then, Lighten Up Francis. Or join the Nevertrumpers.
[–] TippyHome 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Read @johnheretohelp in twitbird. I think they are goading him into martial law, because they think it will turn red voters blue. I really don’t know what I think would happen if we did go all in for mati law. But I am tired of my city being under siege by these leftists monsters Still.
[–] moderator99 3 points -3 points 0 points (+0|-3) ago
Johnheretohelp????
Ya, right. /s
[–] TippyHome 1 point -1 points 0 points (+0|-1) ago
Don’t care if you don’t agree. He’s been right on Flynn and Rod. Are you Rod? Or work with Rod? Sullivan?
[–] revised2 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Some things people cannot be told, they have to be shown. I believe POTUS said that a few weeks ago.
IMO he is showing America how bad the left really is and will not intervene until people demand martial law.
[–] CMAnon [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Well these idiots have been showing the nation and the world for 3 months now what they’re about. Are we setting a new precident for breaking laws? Just wondering if you or me or anyone can vandilize,loot, rape, firebomb buildings for 3+ months and not be arrested?
Guess if I wore an Antifa or BLM shirt that gives me a license to do anything I want? I thought we were against a 2 tiered justice system? Surely the police would not discriminate against us if we just went into a town and did the same things would they?
[–] TSE 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
People have guns, they should use them. Why did they buy them? Sales are up like crazy. WTF, defend your property. If there is a 50/50 chance to get shot, it will stop overnight.
[–] CMAnon [S] ago
That’s what that Kyle kid and now he’s charged with murder. Needless if Trump would act.
[–] TSE ago
charged does not mean conviction. Have a backbone if you want to stop the riots. One should not have to work for 30 years to have his business burned down in 1 hour. That is what self defense laws are for.
[–] PatrioticOkra 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Yes. Insurrection Act.
[–] hailstone ago (edited ago)
WE are already under Martial law and the liber code since 1860's Reconstruction was never finished. And the colorable law systems of Rome was adopted setting aside common law. Roman civil law was adopted 1872 and now because of the 1933 bankruptcy, We are under UCC, uniform commercial code. all states had excepted the UCC by 1967. Hum wasn't that when they took silver out of the US coins circulation? the last of lawful money. ...
Plus!
Do you know why we are under the UCC? It because after the bankruptcy 1933 and the taking of the gold for the bankers, you could no longer require substance, lawful money gold or silver in a contract... thus no lawful contracts as the Consideration was a requirement for a valid contract. Lawful Consideration, acceptance, all the proper requirements for an enforceable contract. The UCC is The old Law Merchant code, dealing in Negotiable instruments. So you could no longer use the rules of Contracts in the Civil Code because it required a lawful consideration in Valid contracts.
Martial Law by Executive Order
03/21/2012 07:26 pm ET Updated May 21, 2012
President Obama’s National Defense Resources Preparedness Executive Order of March 16 does to the country as a whole what the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act did to the Constitution in particular — completely eviscerates any due process or judicial oversight for any action by the Government deemed in the interest of “national security.” Like the NDAA, the new Executive Order puts the government completely above the law, which, in a democracy, is never supposed to happen. The United States is essentially now under martial law without the exigencies of a national emergency.
Even as the 2012 NDAA was rooted in the Patriot Act and the various executive orders and Congressional bills that ensued to broaden executive power in the “war on terror,” so the new Executive Order is rooted in the Defense Production Act of 1950 which gave the Government powers to mobilize national resources in the event of national emergencies, except now virtually every aspect of American life falls under ultimate unchallengeable government control, to be exercised by the president and his secretaries at their discretion.
The 2012 NDAA deemed the United States a “battlefield,” as Senator Lindsey Graham put it, and gave the president and his agents the right to seize and arrest any U.S. citizen, detain them indefinitely without charge or trial, and do so only on suspicion, without any judicial oversight or due process. The new Executive Order states that the president and his secretaries have the authority to commandeer all U.S. domestic resources, including food and water, as well as seize all energy and transportation infrastructure inside the borders of the United States. The Government can also forcibly draft U.S. citizens into the military and force U.S. citizens to fulfill “labor requirements” for the purposes of “national defense.” There is not even any Congressional oversight allowed, only briefings.
In the NDAA, only the president had the authority to abrogate legitimate freedoms of U.S. citizens. What is extraordinary in the new Executive Order is that this supreme power is designated through the president to the secretaries that run the Government itself:
• The Secretary of Defense has power over all water resources;
• The Secretary of Commerce has power over all material services and facilities, including construction materials;
• The Secretary of Transportation has power over all forms of civilian transportation;
• The Secretary of Agriculture has power over food resources and facilities, livestock plant health resources, and the domestic distribution of farm equipment;
• The Secretary of Health and Human Services has power over all health resources;
• The Secretary of Energy has power over all forms of energy.
The Executive Order even stipulates that in the event of conflict between the secretaries in using these powers, the president will determine the resolution through his national security team.
The 2012 NDAA gave the Government the right to abrogate any due process against a U.S. citizen. The new Executive Order gives the government, through the Secretary of Labor, the right to proactively mobilize U.S. citizens for “labor” as the government deems necessary and to coordinate with the Secretary of Defense to maintain data to coordinate the nation’s work needs in relation to national defense.
What is extraordinary about the Executive Order is that, like the NDAA, this can all be done in peacetime without any national emergency to justify it. The language of the Order does not state that all these extraordinary measures will be done in the event of “national security” or a “national emergency.” They can simply be done for “purposes of national defense,” clearly a broader remit that allows the government to do what it wants, when it wants, how it wants, to whomever it wants, all without any judicial restraint or due process. As Orwell famously said in 1984, “War is peace. Peace is war.” This is now the reality on the ground in America.
Finally, the 2012 NDAA was hurried through the House and Senate almost like a covert op with minimal public attention or debate. It was then signed by the president at 9:00 PM on New Year’s Eve while virtually nobody was paying attention to much other than the approaching new year. This new Executive Order was written and signed in complete secret and then quietly released by the White House on its website without comment. All this was done under a president who studied constitutional law at Harvard.
It is hard to know what to say in the face of such egregious disregard for the integrity of what America has stood and fought for since its founding. It is hard in part because none of us thought such encroachments would ever happen here, certainly not under the watch of a “progressive” like Obama.
At one level, the prospect for war with Iran is probably an immediate justification. But the comprehensiveness of the Executive Order, like that of the 2012 NDAA, speaks to something much deeper, more sinister. I would suggest that this Order, like the NDAA, has been in the works for some time and is simply the next step in the logic of the “global war on terror.” Our political elites have come to consider democracy an impediment to effective governance and they are slowly and painstakingly creating all the democratic legalities necessary to abridge our democratic rights with impunity, all to ensure our “security.” Of such measures do republics fall and by such measures tyrants emerge.
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The only thing that really remains is the occasion to test the new rules of the game. Perhaps that will be war with Iran, perhaps some contrived emergency, or perhaps, as long as the public and media remain asleep, no occasion will be necessary at all. It will just slowly happen of its own accord and we, like the frog in the pot of slowly boiling water, will just sit there and be consumed by our own turpitude.
Oh how about a live Plandemic Exercise? Imagine had Hillary been in office? Well the good side we would all get to meet at the RE Education/Extermination camps.