I was thinking about recent info we have been seeing about listing any death as a potential COVID 19 death. And how there is actually a medical code and a form to denote COVID 19 as the reason for the death. When was this added? Who updated the forms?
I have a spidey sense that it was before the big breakout happened as it would have to have been to get all of the forms and systems updated down stream for all of the hospitals to list COVID 19 as the reason for death.
Reminds me how the whistleblower form was changed. So again when was the form changed?
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[–] cabalstone 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago (edited ago)
Good question. Here's the original 'blue form'. The new COVID19 code was introduced on March 24.
International Classification of Diseases,Ninth Revision, Clinical Modification
Latest ICD-10-CM April 1, 2020
[–] dclaffey [S] 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
The blue for shows a date of 8/4 at the bottom, so it is old. The CODE for COVID did not come in until March 24th. On Feb 26th the City of SF declared a state of emergency, which was before everyone else. So are we to believe for 30 days or so they know people died from COVID 19 how? By writing it in?
[–] cabalstone ago
I did post that the blue form was the 'original' form. I don't know if the form itself has changed. Interim guidelines were issued on Feb 20.
[–] SeekingUltimatums 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Steven Schwartz is listed as the Director of Stats. Interestingly, there is also a longtime prof. from Washington who recently died from Covid-19. How can you find out if they are the same?
[–] dclaffey [S] 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
That is the other strange thing, they are not telling you who passed from COVID 19. But you get in a car accident or anything else the news plasters your name. Why not with COVID 19?
[–] cabalstone 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
A bit of digging shows it's not the same guy.
Steven Schwartz, MD at UW
Steven Schwartz, Phd at CDC is in Maryland