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[–] Johnny_Ninja ago  (edited ago)

I am convinced that there's something I'm missing, mainly the difference between winning an argument VS what you're talking about.

I think you're right, we should be focused on doing what you're talking about VS simply proving someone wrong.

I guess my problem is that I don't understand the nuances of the goals you're talking about achieving, much less how to achieve them. I think I could be a more effective soldier in this war if I understood these things better. Like I said before, I'm all ears.

Please feel free to expand on these things, I know it would be helpful for me and likely others.

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[–] Paladin_Diver ago 

I watch the Dan Bongino podcast on YouTube daily. One of the things he's said on several occasions is that when you are debating a rabid Leftist, they aren't your target. Many of them are too far gone down the brainwashing road. Their minds aren't going to change until it's too late, and some of them will still remain in denial, sticking to their sick worldview.

It's the audience that matters. If your arguments are rational and your manner is reasonable, you'll convert more of the onlookers.

I try to apply Socratic methods. Here's a link that describes this to some degree: Socratic Method