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[–] webster_warrior 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Very true. Here is a quick story. I researched the topic of Counter Reformation infiltration of Protestant churches some years ago. This led to a look at Presbyterian theological seminaries, 12 of them, McCormick in Chicago being the main one. The curriculum director there was a Notre Dame graduate. I found that unusual. Upon further look, he was leading the way in "still grappling with the ethical and theological issue of homosexuality." Now, doesn't that sound like infiltration? The Bible is clear. A few years later, I attended a Presbyterian. The central organization was in shambles, completely taken over by the adversary. That church, once well established, now meets in a warehouse. I ask you, isn't this true anecdote evidence of something?

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[–] StormWarning [S] ago 

Thank you for a sad but important story to hear. This is not a isolated tale. AGENDA is the WHY for the reason of infiltration. They "highjack" the ship and use it for their purposes. The people sitting in these organizations begin to see the shift. Some go along, many leave, but the structure falters. We only need to look at the UK and Western Europe to see where we are headed spiritually.

We may find ourselves in warehouses and homes, like the 1st century churches, before this ship is recovered.

There is another element involved in this also that should be addressed. We know that the human body is designed to resist most any bacteria and virus as long as it is fit, and well nourished (nutrition). I think the American church has been susceptible to these parasites for a long time. Cancer gains a foothold in like manner. We do hold a large measure of responsibility in this. Mainly through neglect, which is not a small offence for the believer in the sight of the Almighty. Judgement comes to mind.

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[–] webster_warrior 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You are right about that, especially the reference to terminal illness. That same Presbyterian Church I went to briefly was under a regional office maybe 350 miles away. The minister had to visit there several times a year to get briefed on the latest talking points. A the time, the hot topics were gay ministers and gay marriage. The minister would return home with handouts, position papers, and sermon ideas. In the meanwhile, Presbyterian was the fastest shrinking denomination in the country. As for weakening the church, what better way than to rewrite the Bible?

Look at who, what, and where they are:

https://www.presbyterianmission.org/ministries/theology-formation-and evangelism/theologicaleducation/presbyterian-theological-seminaries-glance/

Along with this takeover comes huge bequests that may now be used to promote socialist causes, just as happened to the Ivy League. The smooth move of the churches being convinced to sign their property over to the central committee is another sad story. One church in Dallas had to pay them $3M to buy back their own church property. That's a whole 'nother story.