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[–] PGLiterati [S] 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I'll go your 60 and raise you another 40. We got to reckon with 1913 Fed.Reserve, WWi, and Smedley Butler. That said, I think the Clinton, Bush, Obama years took treason to a new high.

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[–] Pollycracker ago 

Least we forget George HW Bush.

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[–] RemoteView8 ago  (edited ago)

I'll raise your $100 clear back to Jehovah and the beginnings of religion. When, before Trump, did we ever have a leader who believed that we, the people, might actually know what we were doing? The founding fathers played with the idea, but they created the electoral college just in case they were wrong.