Archived TRUMP WARNS CALIFORNIA - Get your act together or else! (GreatAwakening)
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Archived TRUMP WARNS CALIFORNIA - Get your act together or else! (GreatAwakening)
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[–] Cleanhobo ago
look at the tree rings on those old growth trees... compare the thickness of tree rings to previous ones... If you follow this long enough you will see dry and wet patterns. There It IS hot and dry in the PNW but not insanely so. Old Growth forests are VERY fire resistant. They can burn but it takes pretty extreme conditions. Its the second growth that will burn like crazy, which is part of the sucession that eventually leads to an old growth forest. We have mostly 2nd growth and reprod in the PNW now. This means that we can suffer fires for the next 200 years along with tremendous expense trying to accelerate the recreation of old growth forests while we all starve and go broke or we can continue a logging industry that was killed in the 80s to save spotted owls.
[–] robertawearefree 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
So the problem, then, is that we no longer have any old growth forests. Due to logging. Your point then is that, having gotten to this place by clear-cutting, we need to continue doing what we have been doing?
[–] Cleanhobo ago
Well, we can't miracle up some oldgrowth. We can watch everything burn year over year for hundreds of years as the forests slowly complete a super-cycle and return to oldgrowth... hint: this will never ever ever happen because people change governments and ideology FAR too quickly to keep a "never log again" mindset for 500 years. Hell, it started in the 80s and is pretty much gone now... Not even CLOSE to long enough. So why suffer the fires? Why live in poverty? It won't work. Depopulation (The Deepstate's plan) then wait hundreds of years is the only way to retur to that... and even if we did it woudl take just a little while and guess what... The rules would change and it would all get cut down. See. Humans cut trees and use them for stuff... simple as that. We should do it in a positive safe sane way that regenerates and is not a fire danger. Simple as thAT.