[–] bopper 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

He's a brilliant guy, love him or hate him, you have to admit. And that was a great interview.

[–] RogerMoore0017 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Most transparent president in history.

[–] ArtistiqueJewelry [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Agreed!

[–] ArtistiqueJewelry [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I agree!

A mod said they deleted it because it was opinion.

I will probably be blacklisted and targeted now as I was last time when I spoke up against attacks and attempts to censorship because I pointed out several other articles that are Opinion, but allowed to stay because of the Buddy system only enjoyed by the privileged.

Hits too close to what we are fighting Against.

Trump did a great job! Very proud of him!

I stood up against hate to get him elected. . .I'll keep standing up for the cause!

[–] srayzie 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Was the image link “Our Potus on Fire” here before the post was deleted? If so, I think in the future, a post like this should not be deleted. The link is showing others that Trump was going to be on 60 minutes. However, it would be better if more than an image link was provided. I think it’s still acceptable tho.

@MolochHunter

@ArtistiqueJewelry - The mod may not have known that an image link showing that Trump would be acceptable. He has no reason to want that censored.

Since when have I ever censored you? OWI got banned after several warnings when he attacked you. I have always been fair with you when attacked. So I think it’s rude to act as tho this subverse censors “more than Facebook.”

[–] ArtistiqueJewelry [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

@MolechHunter srayzie, I was saying that Immediately when I got banned.

I see others speak their minds, generally in a disrespectful manner, yet they get by with it. I stand up for myself and. . .

I was making it Clear that facebook allowed this to run when I posted it last night because they didn't remove it; therefore, it was Fact that it was deleted here, but not there.

I can't change fact. I have always called a spade a spade and yes. . .this makes many hate me! Used to it, but I don't like muddied facts. I want it straight no matter how putrid!

Quite used to the pig lot and putrid. . .Still Preferred to the Fake Facade and expected ego stroking or ignoring the Facts in order to "fit in!"

No thanks!

This poses a problem for those who want and Do straddle the fence! Rules should Not be Posted, nor a pretense of adhering to them. . .if there won't be an effort to follow through.

Thus Obama's "fake line in the sand." Thus the tampering and efforts to Destroy our Constitution. . That's anarchy. . .exactly what controllers want!

If there isn't to be a Standard of law or rules. . .they shouldn't be posted!

All should have to abide by the Same Said rules or the bias is Glaring!

We've all stayed silent too long while taking abuse! We don't like it when we see the same methods still being employed.

Yes, I thought it was unfair Because others on this board, prior to reddit joiners, wasn't saying you, have falsely accused me, called me vile names and viciously attacked, been verbally abusive when I have Never called names or attacked Anyone. Never prompted, never trolled, even succumbed to giving them upvotes as practically mandated Only for me, not for them. I have engaged and been kind to the haters. Never reciprocated and from what I could see, was not demanded of them as it Was for me! I don't think it should be demanded on either side BTW, just pointing out the blatant dichotomy.

I was always told in so many words, "that was just how it was," after people attacked then tattled on me when they couldn't bully me to do their bidding.

Also told I better buck up and be willing to take the abuse in so many words, that it was like a type of boot camp and that's just how it was. Breaking people in.

Okay.

I get that. . .the unfairness comes in where they can break the rules set forth stating that posters weren't allowed to attack others. . but I Wasn't allowed to Say a word about it or stand up for myself without being given stipulations when I was the One Attacked. . .not them!

Stipulations of being forced to engage on other posts, even though people didn't have to (nor should they be forced) on my posts. Very totalitarian as many times I get zero responses to comments and that is fine (I don't want people forced).
Not sure why I was being singled out and Forced in order to submit research, when this was a board claiming to be about Q and Q encouraged people to go deeper. . .seek out info as we have More than we Know. Odd, or is it?

OWI attacked numerous times and had a posse after me. They even called you out at the end. Yes, you stood up then and weren't bullied when he began attacking you in the same manner. I realize you also stood up for me when he once again as the attacker tattled on my and tried to get me to submit!

I knew that wasn't anyone's direct fault on here. He wasn't removed until he attacked the mod.

Mods are busy, so probably had no idea how much havoc he reeked. Understandable as I Only pointed it out After he, as the attacker tattled and expected me to be punished for His actions. I thought that was what we were all fighting against as Patriots.

No this mod who deleted wasn't part of the posse as I initially thought. . .I was given false info concerning the name ( he was named, but acknowledged these were low level character people) and I acknowledged that.

Took responsibility for it, though many in charge have Never taken responsibility for errors and misjudgements. Not saying this particular mod. The mod stated it needed a link. I was happy to comply.

I simply noted initially that there were Others allowed to post what I would consider Opinion posts. . .I had no issue with them myself, once again, **Facts are simply facts.
Pointing out a discrepancy as to me it was plain and simple.

He came back and explained, I fully understand the position he is in.

There seems to be an issue of the attacked and messenger always being despised or called a whiner if they stick up for themselves. Not saying directly from you, but has been allowed by the abusers. Just another tactic to silence.

Quick to jump. . .yes. . .because of the constant double standard and abuse on here. Not saying from mods. . .posters allowed because the mod didn't want to censor them no matter how verbally abusive and how many unwarranted, non instigated attacks they threw my way. I was told over and over my attackers had good hearts, but all of a sudden, once they attacked the mod. ..the story finally changed and they were suspended.

Once again. . .only commented on them after said attackers tattled on me.

There may have been One time where I finally said something about E_C's attacks prior to his tattling for not caving in to his demands.

As for this. . .I also feel that no matter how hard I work or jump through mandates. . .I Have been expected to deal with a lot of abuse, not from everyone, I pinpointed the trolls from shareblue early, but I am always like John crying in the wilderness. People don't listen Until it happens to them. Understandable that this is human nature.

I will say, that although giving ultimatums, srayzie did stick up for me at times. Bear in mind. . .I had done Nothing to warrant the False Attacks, verbal abuse and vicious name calling. Never called names back nor verbally abused the attackers prior nor after.

She stuck up for me right before IWO started attacking her in only Some of the ways he and his posse attacked me. They even went over to reddit right before it was taken down and did the same.

Generally don’t talk about it, because I realize people are busy, too much to do, but if I am called out. . .will state it like it is.

I realize I am Not the only one who deals with this.

I do feel if I stick up for myself I am called out, even though others stick up for themselves While being abusive!

I am Far from abusive. Since I felt I got it wrong about the mod. . .I apologized. I keep my statements respectful.

I have Never treated anyone in the manner I have been subjected to or expected to tolerate. Yes, life's not fair, but Others have been given a license to abuse many times.

No one has EVER apologized to me . I also know that is the right of the mod to pick and choose who follows the rules. Not saying MH was doing this as he is just following orders and I do support and believe rules should be followed. ..by all.

I was told even though I was not the attacker nor initial tattler. . .the attackers were tattling, which caused the mod to place ultimatums on me. . .engage more with others (though others don't always respond to me, they are Not forced to engage with me nor do I think they should be) or was told I shouldn't post and I am limited if wanting to post my own research. Which is fine as new rules were made to appease the attackers.

When I stuck up for myself prior to the incident where IWO was abusive with me, then later with a mod. . .I was told perhaps this wasn't the site for me (that was prior to abuse with mod).

Now, I don't know what was said in private to IOW, but I do know that he had free reign Until attacking a mod in the same manner he had been doing to me for months.

That was only One. There are others who are still allowed free reign. They know Q group is watching now since the Reddit board moved over here, so people are conducting themselves in a different manner I noticed.

I do grow weary of the double standards. Fine if people are allowed free reign, then mandates should not be placed on the attacked. The attacked didn’t instigate the problem! Preposterous and that is my opinion I realize.

This is actually moot now, as I understood the mod's position on this particular post and the fact the mod is striving to do what is expected.

Once again. . .I also apologized.

Is there any other issue? And yes, the image was there, so perhaps the mod just wasn't clear on the expectation.

Image was there and same info as in deleted post except for the addition of two links.

I understand wanting deeper research. I do that all the time, yet I am attacked for doing so Much of the time. Not on other platforms as much, just here (not saying by you directly).

Once again, simple fact.

They called off the censors on me on FB, so my statement concerning Zuck was apt. For now. . .more has gotten through there than I am allowed to put through on here.

As you said before when I've stuck up for myself against attacks and verbal abuse. . .I am free to go elsewhere.

I believe my response was, "I never said I was going anywhere!"

I had also apologized if I had caused the mods any trouble.

No one has ever apologized for being wrong about the abusers and allowing them free reign.

I would have said nothing, but if I am called out. . .Tired of sitting by quietly and just Taking it. It's what many of us have done for years.

Not just Sheep No More, but also Silent No More! If this causing me to be Blacklisted, posts flagged, me hated more. . .So be it!

I've been there before, nothing new under the sun!

Rather have Truth, the whole truth than fake or tampering with the rules to suit the buddy system!

A spade can't be a heart. . .people will twist, fence straddle, appease and attempt to shape into a heart. ..Still a Spade!

[–] Crensch 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

You can thank @srayzie for me using the kid gloves here. Whatever you see of my words that you think is rude or mean, just know this is me being nice; not a single person on this website will care if it hurts your feelings.

I see others speak their minds, generally in a disrespectful manner, yet they get by with it. I stand up for myself and. . .

And, generally speaking, the mods of PG and GA are some of the most attacked users on this website. You can be yourself, but you'll have to learn to navigate better if you don't want some retaliatory remarks to your words.

No One has saved me. He was gotten rid of because he attacked you. Fair enough. . .

Having been around for this, him attacking you WAS the last straw for @srayzie, and him attacking srayzie was just another Tuesday for her.

Yes, I thought it was unfair Because others on this board, prior to reddit joiners, wasn't saying you, have falsely accused me, called me vile names and viciously attacked, been verbally abusive when I have Never called names or attacked Anyone.

You don't get brownie points for being nice here.

And your word there, "others" makes any argument of fairness look retarded. There's nothing fair about Voat

Never prompted, never trolled, even succumbed to giving them upvotes as practically mandated Only for me, not for them.

What is this? Mandated by whom?

I have engaged and been kind to the haters.

Why? Why would you do that?

Never reciprocated and from what I could see, was not demanded of them as it Was for me!

Source for this?

I was always told in so many words, "that was just how it was," after people attacked then tattled on me when they couldn't bully me to do their bidding.

1) That's exactly how Voat is.

2) What? Do you ever source your claims?

Also told I better buck up and be willing to take the abuse in so many words, that it was like a type of boot camp and that's just how it was. Breaking people in.

Voat doesn't care about you or your feelings. Voat cares about who has the best support for their position.

I get that. . .the unfairness comes in where they can break the rules set forth stating that posters weren't allowed to attack others. . but I Wasn't allowed to Say a word about it or stand up for myself without being given stipulations when I was the One Attacked. . .not them!

Do you understand that the comment before yours was roughly 6 lines of text, while the above-quoted is probably some 30 lines down of your comment? And that might be OK if you provided relevant context for your words but right now it seems like you're on some kind of ramble.

@srayzie once told me that she loves your work.

I didn't really look, but if your work is anything like these comments, it's nonsensical and absurd; zero context provided, just a stream-of-consciousness response that doesn't seem to show even the slightest concern for anyone trying to understand your words. I'm almost certain I would have to read your mind to understand what you're writing here.

In fact, every single response of yours in this nest shows ZERO quoted text to which you're specifically responding. Are you just a soapbox hero? Here to make no-context statements that cause readers to go cross-eyed before getting through even a quarter of your comments? Is all of this designed to look like legalese?

Did you know that vague claims like "they attacked me" on a forum mean exactly nothing without context? People read (or try to read) what you write. Are you writing so they understand you, or are you writing because you love seeing your thoughts show up in text?

So many questions, and so incredibly much wrong with what you're writing here - and I can't bring myself to read through all of your comments in order to address your actual points more than I already have.

Bottom line:

Formatting matters. So does context. Try a little harder to communicate your thoughts clearly, or nobody will read enough of your words to care about you.

[–] srayzie 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I’ve tried to help you. You seem pretty ungrateful. It’s not even my job to protect you from other users. Do you expect me to apologize because another user hurt your feelings? I don’t ban someone just because their an asshole. It takes a lot. Have I ever received a thank you from you for saving your ass several times?

I’ll back off and let you fend for yourself. This is Voat. It’s free speech. Do you think I wasn’t attacked when I started? I’m attacked constantly. Especially running a Q sub. I get fricken threats in my inbox. Not to mention being a pizzagate mod. I’ve had my family threatened. How do you think I toughened up? You have to get past thinking you’re a victim. You’re on your own girlfriend.

I just want to let you guys know what’s going on in case she has another tantrum.
@Shizy @MolochHunter @Type-o-Negative

[–] srayzie 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Wasn't allowed to Say a word about it or stand up for myself without being given stipulations when I was the One Attacked. . .not them!

Who said you couldn’t say a word? Nobody can tell you what to do. No, it wasn’t about OWI attacking a mod. I’ve fought with him many times. It was the fact that he was no longer willing to abide by the rules.

[–] srayzie 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Banned from what?

[–] MolochHunter 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It was admittedly, but here was the quandry: I was like ' is that a meme or just words on a coloured background? And then I was anticipating the other OP whose 60 minute post was very similar that I deleted coming back at me to argue why would I delete his and not @Artistiquejewellery 's post when they where so similar 😁😱 tricky, eh?

[–] ArtistiqueJewelry [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I was told it was deleted because it didn't have a link.

I have seen other posts without links that I would call opinion, but I like them.

Just felt there was a double standard.

I was told that is not the intention, so I reposted with a link.

I didn't mean to cause the mods any trouble. I am sorry.

[–] Ohhhhmega 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

so they "deleted" the post but it's still here? What's the point of that? Anyway I like it.

[–] ArtistiqueJewelry [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's a sad day when Facebook Censors Less than Voat!

This comment will likely be censored, but had to say it!

[–] ArtistiqueJewelry [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

They told me it was an opinion post.

I guess that's fair. I still LOVE him!

His statements which they will All twist and turn around. . . well worth it!

[–] bopper 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It's not in the main body of the forum but you can still be 'active' on it.

[–] MolochHunter 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

@ArtistiqueJewelry

Sorry I have to delete this post as an opinion piece. For more detail about the kind of posts we are less likely to delete please read https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/2780607

[–] ArtistiqueJewelry [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

@srayzie Examples of Opinion pieces allowed to stay because. . .well, we all Know why!

https://files.catbox.moe/kadbxk.jpg

https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/2787911

https://truepundit.com/google-relies-on-soros-as-an-expert-in-good-censor-report/

This has an ad on it Right Away and you can't Even see the article unless you pretend you are putting their book in the cart.

So it's okay to do this if your popular and loved by certain people, but regular people who have been abused and used on here. . .a no go.

I have no issue with the content of the posts I listed as examples, but wondering Why there is a double standard which clearly Only applies to me because certain people were in the same group as haters like Enigmatic_ and the other one who was verbally abusive to srayzie.

I see a pattern.

I didn't give a link to steemit, which I have been repeatedly attacked, though others Run ads. I didn't give Any link, I simply posted an item in discussion.

It looks like censorship in a new form is all.

I know I am hated for calling a spade a spade, but it is what it is.

https://files.catbox.moe/sml0b2.png

I agree with these. . .but opinion. The difference is, they would have been removed by the mod If I would have posted them.

https://truepundit.com/watch-police-on-scene-after-protesters-stomp-antifa-in-street-fights-and-pockets-of-wild-rioting-saturday-night/

So can state their Opinion Directly in the title and okay, because their a fav.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/9ntkgl/npc_does_not_compute/?st=JN8LKBPA&sh=3b8d8abd

I don't have a problem with it, but Blatant Opinion. That's okay because it's the buddy club.

I know how it works, but I have Never liked Double Standards. Too Obvious!

[–] MolochHunter 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Ms Artistique

I dont know where this is coming from. I usually rate your posts quite highly. honestly

if you look in the Deleted folder you will see yours is one of two Trump / 60 minute stories that i deleted

if you read the PLEASE READ RULES FOR SUBMITTING POSTS post by @Srayzie, you will appreciate that all you have to do to get that post over the line is to provide a link of the 60 minute story

and you still could. its that easy to comply with the rules

[–] ArtistiqueJewelry [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Got it! I see lots of opinions on the GA board. . .but that's None of my business.

I have been told and shown my place many times. TY

[–] derram 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

[–] SeeingBee_2 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I had to miss it! Wonder if they have it on line anywhere? i would want to watch it without any one cutting and manipulating for sound bites.

[–] ArtistiqueJewelry [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Precisely! I don't have any providers, but we had an old antenna. . .What a find!

Well worth seeing it on your own and hearing his words with your own ears and no muddied commentary!

They deleted my post, so not sure if I find it whether I can post it or not.