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[–] QuantumWannabe 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

What originally caused you to say Fuck Google?

For me it was when they locked my Wallet account when I tried to use NFC payments and wanted me to send a scanned image of my SSN card (they didn't just want the last 4 digits, or even the entire number, no they wanted a photo of the card!) in order to unlock it. I said no way are you getting that, and now I can not make NFC payments with my fancy Android phone.

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[–] nonservator [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

See this reply. I'd had plenty of frustrations before that moment, and have heard plenty of horror stories from others before and since that are far worse, like yours and similar ones a la Facebook demanding gubmint slave ID. But for something as simple as search -- their specialty, their crowning glory -- to be so completely and obviously broken? At that moment, I literally said "Fuck Google", and completely wrote them off, never to be used again for anything.

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[–] gnosticmike 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Would you say "Fuck Google" to Google's virtual face? There are several places to do that. Especially if your using Google products.

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[–] nonservator [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I'd be happy to say it in person to anyone there at any level (and actually told Justine Tunney when I informed her of the sub's existence, in a PM). Though the lower on the corporate totem pole, the less I'd intend and want for them to take it personally.

As for their virtual face, I only actually tried to seriously contact Google once, back when I was still using Voice. Certainly long before I decided to eliminate them from my life, I'd seen more than enough messages from other folks on their forums to dissuade me from the idea that it would be worth voicing my discontent in their venue, or really much of anywhere. So I just personally boycotted them, until I noticed one day that the subreddit existed and wasn't being used. Created the subvoat more recently, during another escalation of Reddit kerfuckery.

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[–] catechumen 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

What was the most shocking thing Google did?

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[–] nonservator [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

They didn't just make the default +, - and "" stupid, they removed even the choice for you to make it smart like the old way. Even Microsoft gives you more choice than that (though part of it is their often frustrating level of commitment to backward compatibility. C'mon guys, just be better than Steve Jobs, nobody's saying you have to support THAT far back).

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[–] catechumen 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Whoa, completely confused. Are you referring to google's social media platform?

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[–] nearly-evil 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

When they remover this is when I stopped using google. The main problem with google, as I see it, is the hiring practices. I think eventually they will have a brain drain and someone new will take their place. I think they know this is happening and that is why they have really taken a step back from the OSS community.

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[–] binky 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Do you like Google?

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[–] nonservator [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That's a bit broad. You'd need to be name specific individuals that work there, or at least name specific tools and services.

As far as individuals, I don't know any personally; from what I've read I like most of what Justine Tunney has to say, but you can probably guess I disagree with a lot as well. Like? She strikes me as a likable person in her interview with Gavin McInnes.

Tools and services? I used to love their search engine. Then it started sucking, and now I not only don't like it, I think everyone responsible for its suckage should be punched in the crotch with a planet.

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[–] strawberryskittles 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Do you have any recommendations on alternatives to gmail?

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[–] nonservator [S] 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Fastmail isn't free since they grandfathered old free accounts and stopped giving them out, and they're not the dirt cheapest. But they've been around for a long time, and have deservedly earned their reputation on technical merit, privacy principles, and overall transparency.

As far as free services, it's getting harder to find decent ones that allow POP3 and/or IMAP access instead of forcing you through web interfaces which often fail to function with even minimal adblocking in place. Yahoo and AOL still seem to more or less work okay, but anyone with suggestions, feel free to chime in. The more the merrier.

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[–] GOT 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Is your beef with google search or is it a general thing and includes popular stuff like google fiber ?

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[–] nonservator [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

As noted above, their search failures were the initial and primary motivating factor. But I had never been an uncritical fan, and I find increasingly worrisome the directions that Google executives have been explicitly taking. I am not a critic of anything merely because it is popular or unpopular, merely because it is new or old, but try to judge everything and everyone on their own merits.