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[–] Vvswiftvv17 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yea, no. Dollar store shit breaks after two uses. I've tried that shit believe me! It sucks balls.

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[–] panxerox 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

For what it would cost to buy 10 "meals" at mcdonalds I could eat well for a month.

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[–] AmaleksHairyAss 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Monster hunter is retarded. If he didn't take the post he "rebutted" out of context that guy is also retarded. But mostly Monster hunter is retarded.

you’d have to be a complete dolt to not realize that stuff costs more money.

It costs less in context. When you're exhausted and have work to do, and anyway there's no food at home (because you can't afford a whole trip to the grocery store but you do have $5.35 in your pocket) calorie for calorie fast food can't be beat.

I suppose if you were easily butt hurt and looking for a reason to get all offended, okay.

So you're admitting it's a valid point while throwing in an irrelevant comment.

utensils

Cooking with thrift store and bargain basement utensils is possible, but it takes more time, it's harder to do, and it takes more expertise. This problem is compounded when you're working with a small stove and a small sink in a small kitchen. It's compounded further if there's someone you have to take care of at the same time.

Cook A has her kids playing outside. She takes her steel pot out of the cupboard, selects an oil, grabs the butter, flour, yeast, milk, and spices from the refrigerator and spice rack, and starts assembling garlic bread. She puts it in one of the big bowls to puff up while she goes and does something else. Later she comes back. She rolls out the bread with her rolling pin and bakes the bread in her properly calibrated oven. The kids are inside now, and they've used up their energy and are starting on school work. She takes some ground beef out of the full sized refrigerator and cooks it up with olive oil, salt, pepper, and fresh basil. She uses a different burner to reduce the tomato sauce, a third burner to boil some vegetables, and a fourth burner to toast some garlic. Any chopping is done with a good steel chef's knife on a large cutting board. She throws all the dishes in her full sized sink as she plates the dinner. She calls to her family and they all have a nice home-cooked meal.

Cook B can't have her kids playing outside at this hour, not in the inner city. They're watching TV like zombies, and getting restless and cranky. She's trying to keep them cheerful and getting them thinking about homework while she takes out the flour... oops, no yeast, she didn't buy any on her on monthly trip to the big store. No garlic bread today. Let's just go with spaghetti. She takes her thin aluminum pot out and starts to boil water. She's working with two burners in a small kitchen with half a spice rack. She drops frozen vegetables in with the spaghetti while the mismatched quantity of ground beef cooks. A bowl of tomato sauce heats up in the microwave. She washes the dishes as quickly as possible and constantly has to stop to attend her children and if that means some food is on hold or burns so be it. She has basil but it's so old it's brown. Use it anyway. If she cooked bread she would have to adjust the times for her oven, and it's not going to turn out as well. She throws it all together and for her significantly larger effort and higher cost (because she had to buy most of the ingredients at a closer, more expensive store with a lower selection) the family has a significantly poorer meal.

Yes it is possible for a poor person to cook. No you can't say each has the same costs, or that it's just as easy if you're poor.

Apparently, to cut a tomato in half requires a knife forged by a samurai blade smith, using ore taken from a meteor.

No, it takes a steel knife that has been sharpened recently, and it's a lot easier on a large cutting surface. Do it in a cramped kitchen with a dull knife (every single extra task, such as sharpening a knife, takes energy a poor person is less likely to have) on a tiny cutting board and you're going to have a mashed tomato.

Of course expenses add up, you nitwit. You know what adds up even faster? Spending money on restaurant foo

Again, missing the point entirely. Poor people don't spend all their money at restaurants. But if you're poor and busy and hungry and have nothing at home you're more likely to grab a $2 burger than a wealthy person is, because the wealthy person probably has leftovers, time to go to the store, or at least the money to visit the deli counter.

But if you want a really nice (mixing bowl), it will cost $4 whole dollars

which is irrelevant if you don't have a place to keep it or room to wash it.

(in regards to cooking spray and heavy foil) I’m betting with his expertise in social justice and video games, Jef skipped those classes explaining the concept of “up front costs”. Do these poor people throw the pan away when they are done or something?

Heavy foil can't be reused and no, poor people don't have it. In fact a poor cook is unlikely to want to use even light foil. Cooking spray? hah! But oil is cheap enough, so that's a red herring. A poor person also has to use a much smaller selection of pots and pans.

It looks like the foil costs about $2-$3 for FIFTY feet of it. And cooking spray? Mom can hook you up.

That's just retarded. If you're poor you minimize the help you ask from your family because you're going to need a big favor at some point, like a hundred dollars to make rent. And that's light foil, bub. And you lowballed the price. And every expense adds up.

Now personally, we buy our spices in giant containers, better value that way, but Jef has already told us that he thinks poor people are too dumb to think about their future. They’re basically single celled organisms like that.

Again, poor people don't have space for large containers of spices. They're also not as likely to be cooking for as many people at once so the spices will go bad if they're bought in large quantities. They're also much less likely to be shopping in a store that sells bulk spices.

But the root of this argument has nothing to do with the points here. The root of the problem isn't whether poor people can afford to cook. It's wealthy people wanting to judge poor people for the choices they make. So if you do that, fuck you. Go live for a year in the inner city and spend absolute bottom dollar for food and transportation and don't rely on your family for help. Not only will you have more compassion, but you'll also realize how much sense a lot of the "stupid" decisions poor people make are. You judgemental prick.