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[–] OhBlindOne 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

I have to disagree. I believe you are taking this amendment to mean that anyone who is inside of the United States borders is protected by these laws. This is not true.

Here is how to become a naturalized citizen of the U.S. (Source)

A person can become a naturalized citizen of the United States individually or as part of a group. Generally any person who has come into the United States as an immigrant may become a naturalized citizen. To do so, a person must be over 18 years old and must have lived in the United States for five years, without leaving for more than a total of 30 months (and not more than twelve consecutive months) throughout that five-year period.

People who wish to become U.S. citizens must file a petition for naturalization and take an examination that shows that they can read, speak, and write simple English and have a fair knowledge of American history, government, and the Constitution.

If someone comes into this country illegally, they are not protected under the constitution. Think of how insane that would be. That would mean, anyone coming to the U.S. regardless of their intentions and background, are automatically protected under these laws. That means the following: a spy comes into the U.S. from the country Imagionationia, to steal information from the U.S. government. The moment they crossed the border, they are now protected under the constitution and the laws therein.

One is only a protected citizen of the United States if they are born in the U.S. or have become a naturalized citizen. Not if there come illegally.


[–] Spheal357 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Unfortunately, I think the far left politicians like our current POTUS appoint Supreme Court Justices that they know will interpret the 14th amendment as a reason to give illegals equal rights... Doing this devalues being born in the US and it's adding up. I grew up in Florida, but I attend a very liberal university in the North and before a track meet when they played the national anthem I was made fun of for standing at attention... One name they called me "The colonel's kid" (because my father is a Colonel in the US Marines) just struck me as odd. I'm proud to be the son of a Marine, meanwhile they think it's a joke to respect the flag, our armed forces, and someone who disagrees with them.


[–] 4547888? 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Wouldn't that also mean that since the spy isn't American, it wouldn't be illegal for him or her to obtain the information they were sent to "steal"? After all, being a non-American, he or she isn't subject to the law. Unless what you're saying is they they're still subject to it, but can't be protected by it. In which case, doesn't that create a slave class where a non-American citizen could enslave another non-American citizen and everything would be legally okie-dokie as long as they were within the jurisdiction of US law? Can't be a victim of a crime if you're not protected by the law.


[–] OhBlindOne 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That kind of thing falls under International Law

But, for the sake of argument, let's say there is no international law. A spy comes over to country X and tries to steal information. Yes, that spy, we'll call him Agent Bob, is not protected under the laws of country X, as the spy is not a citizen of the country.

That being said, since the laws of country X do not apply to Agent Bob, Agent John (a country X agent) could shoot Agent Bob where he stands because he is a spy and not a citizen of the country; therefore, there are no laws protecting Agent Bob or giving him rights.

This is why the UN exists and there are International Laws, to avoid these kinds of legally ambiguous situations.