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[–] ilovepussy 5 points 103 points (+108|-5) ago 

And why the fuck are they allowed to sue anybody. They have no rights here if they are here illegally.


[–] Donbuster 4 points 48 points (+52|-4) ago 

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

They do have rights, under the 14th amendment, since they are within the boundaries of the US.


[–] KingofKong [S] 1 points 47 points (+48|-1) ago 

But I thought driving falls under the category of privilege rather than inalienable rights.


[–] OhBlindOne 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

I have to disagree. I believe you are taking this amendment to mean that anyone who is inside of the United States borders is protected by these laws. This is not true.

Here is how to become a naturalized citizen of the U.S. (Source)

A person can become a naturalized citizen of the United States individually or as part of a group. Generally any person who has come into the United States as an immigrant may become a naturalized citizen. To do so, a person must be over 18 years old and must have lived in the United States for five years, without leaving for more than a total of 30 months (and not more than twelve consecutive months) throughout that five-year period.

People who wish to become U.S. citizens must file a petition for naturalization and take an examination that shows that they can read, speak, and write simple English and have a fair knowledge of American history, government, and the Constitution.

If someone comes into this country illegally, they are not protected under the constitution. Think of how insane that would be. That would mean, anyone coming to the U.S. regardless of their intentions and background, are automatically protected under these laws. That means the following: a spy comes into the U.S. from the country Imagionationia, to steal information from the U.S. government. The moment they crossed the border, they are now protected under the constitution and the laws therein.

One is only a protected citizen of the United States if they are born in the U.S. or have become a naturalized citizen. Not if there come illegally.


[–] shakin_my_head 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Born or naturalized


[–] Chiefpacman 4 points 1 points (+5|-4) ago 

Within it's jurisdiction.

Jurisdiction doesn't mean within US borders. It's an extent of power, and it doesn't really answer the question. They are illegal.

If what you're saying were true, an illegal immigrant could re enter the country simply on the grounds that his miranda rights were not read appropriately.

Personally- I'd say the answer lies with congress ignoring this.


[–] Scotcheggs 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

US is one of the only countries that gives citizenship if you are born there. It is also the only country thst taxes you if you don't livr there but are a citizen. Its all about money not your rights or anything silly like that.

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[–] Chiefpacman 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 


We're trading you with a poor Siberian boy. Pack your things, it's his turn to be priveledged. Imagine how righteous you'll feel once he's here.