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[–] eggnogg 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Gather enough friends for a full 5 on 5 in-house game and then you can re-balance the teams until it's fun. Queuing as a team with a big skill gap can't be fun for everyone.

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[–] nonethewiser [S] 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

9 friends? What do I look like, Justin Beiber?

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[–] eggnogg 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

They don't have to all be your office friends, don't you have other steam buddies?

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[–] farmer- 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I am not sure if the title of this post is a call for advice or a rhetorical question, but I was in a similar situation back when I played league (switching to dota has been a hard transition as it is more of a different game than I initially thought). but, if you were looking for advice or insight, here is mine:

i think it all comes down to your attitude. are you playing to win or playing to bond and have fun with friends? if you're playing to win and think that is what is fun, then I recommend just not playing with your friends. you won't have to pick up for their noobishness and they won't have to deal with any sort of passive aggression/frustration from you when they do stupid shit. You could even set aside time for yourself so that you budget your gaming between playing a few games with them and then take some solo time where you get people on your team who are at least around your skill level

however, should you decide that your friendship with them is way more important than their skill level and how many wins you crank out (i sure hope you do) then i recommend just dicking around. its just a game. do a troll build or something outlandish that keeps things challenging and interesting for you. playing with friends (remember, "friends" not "teammates") is something that should be more about having fun than babysitting.

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[–] OneTrueCube 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I would second this.

When I play with my buddies, we're playing to dick around and have fun. We trash talk the enemies, we do stupid builds, we send 5 people mid.

For soloqueue ranked, gloves come off and it's time to kick butt.

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[–] piratse 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Uggghh I have this every night. I am at 53% win rate on my main account. EVERY time I play with my friends for a couple nights a week it drops to 50%. Then I have to play solo to get it back up. Wash, rinse, repeat. I love playing with my friends, they even introduced me to DOTA, but they play super passive, they are always scared to make a move, and they NEVER make quick decisions. It's always "lets fall back and wait." I've tried to support, carry, initiate it's all the same result. Last night I was playing PA trying to farm. 20 min in I had boots, a vlads, and was probably 2 min away from a battlefury (for cancer lancer). But even with gyro, tusk, and puck they couldn't get any kills. I had our ONLY 3 kills (and 1 death), they racked up 26 deaths!!! The game was over before it started. Anyways we rarely now play normal game types. To have fun with them we do custom games, ability draft, 10v10, or deathmatch. I don't get as mad because there is so much luck involved with winning that I can't blame them. I have more fun. Then I head back to solo que and get my win level back up. Another option is play 2 games before them (hopefully win). Play a few with the friends that you'll probably lose, then play another couple after to even the W/L back out. From 54% to 51.96% WIN RATE in one night.

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[–] IcebergeAhead 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Considering that I'm one of the "friends and coworkers" who has grown to a point where you don't need to out-carry my propensity to feed anymore, I'd say you should just focus on playing characters you like or having fun / unique builds. You'll have to decide if getting the other guy to a point where I am now is worth it for you to have fun later. I'm only where I am now because I had to deal with your "FORCE STAFF THEN ULT, FORCE STAFF THEN ULT!!!!!! DO IT!!!!" So if you feel it's worth it to invest further into the skill level of your friends then you could potentially have more fun later when we're all at roughly the same stage.

Along with the fact that we're less skilled than you, you're going to be pulled into matches where our other teammates could be potentially worse, I guess it still all comes down to whether or not you think your personal time / enjoyment investment into the skill level of your friends is worth it or not for later. Myself and whatever his Steam name is now will continue playing regardless of whether or not you want to play with us, just his skill level will progress more slowly than if he had you to yell at him like you did for me.

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[–] LordLord_IAmShitLord 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Low bracket pubs are very simple. You need 2 things: a strong mid and a strong carry. That's it.

If my mid is dominating and ganking, and I'm playing a safelane carry I'm comfortable with - I give us a 75% chance to win. Sounds like OP is your strong mid, you guys just need to find a strong carry (or have your current carry get better)

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[–] LordLord_IAmShitLord 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Ooh, this subverse is active!

What MMR range are we talking? 500 vs 1700? or 3000 vs 4200? Makes a big difference.

not because I have a lot, but because he has almost none

He needs to practice in lobbies, a lot. Until he can get at least 50% in a free lane he shouldn't play carry.

But to answer your original question:

How do you have fun as the best person in the group?

Relax, pick a hero you never play, and just do your thing. If I pick a hero I never play, go 21-0, and still lose - whatever. I can't even be mad.

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[–] sakuramboo 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I feel ya, man.

There's a group that I some times queue with. They usually want me to play carry mid, though I'm most comfortable as either carry safe lane or support off lane. There's very few mid carries that I feel comfortable playing. So, naturally, when we play together we usually lose. But, when I'm soloing, I have around 50% win rate.