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[–] zak_the_mac 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That episode was a real return to top form. Horror and mystery, mixed up perfectly. The tension was high right through the episode. I think 55 minutes suits Doctor Who better than 45 minutes. And I think next week's finale is gonna be 65 minutes!

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[–] Trash_Duchess 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

It'll be great - I still have so many questions! One thing I'm wondering is who the hybrid actually is. Like the Doctor said "The Hybrid is ME!", but didn't they take care to emphasise that Ashildr called herself Me? So it could be either the Doctor himself or Ashildr since she is sort of a hybrid of a human and the alien thingy that made her immortal?

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[–] didntsayeeeee 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It would seem awfully contrived if they'd named a character "Me" just so the Doctor could make an ambiguous statement at the end of an episode.

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[–] GuftaGess 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Exactly. I called the twist much later in this ep than many others, and I enjoyed that the parable was more a clue than a lesson to the audience. I ABSOLUTLEY LOVE that the entire experience boils down to "ARE YOU SURE? Like, REALLY SURE?" I guess the biggest question I have is SPOILERS How, if Gallifrey were transported into a pocket universe in a painting, could the Dr have keyed his dial to it?

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[–] Jamie_Dodgems 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

What the fuck.

Just what the fuck.

I'll be back later when I've regained my ability to speak in anything other than exclamations of shock and disbelief.

Moffat you mad genius why.

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[–] Trash_Duchess 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I-I think the episode killed me. Like, this is my ghost, typing on my behalf since the original me died of how awesome that episode was...I can't wait for part 2!

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[–] thoughts-from-alex [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I KNOW.

That was insane.

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

also can someone explain the whole Hybrid thing for me I heard what he said at the end but it didn't make sense to me

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[–] Rainy-Day-Dream 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

it bothered me they didn't take the time to explain the Empty Chair psychology technique or the Slow motion perception phenomenon I enjoyed the episode more because I knew about them and brothers grimm stories already but I feel like a lot of people would be confused or think he was losing his mind

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[–] Jamie_Dodgems 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

OK, having had some time to recover, There's one thing I only just realized.

The whole place was essentially a giant interrogation machine designed to get him to reveal the location of the Hybrid via childhood nightmare monster.

He had none of his usual tools.

He had no means of taking down the Veil.

The only way he could escape was by giving the interrogator exactly what they wanted.

There was 25 feet of the hardest material in the universe between him and the backdoor exit.

And the only option aside from giving away the location of the hybrid was to live and die over and over again, almost infinitely.

In short, this was a virtual hell designed to crush his will, scare him to death, and get him to the point where he would give away the most destructive secret in the universe just to get away from this torture.

He didn't.

He weaponised the properties of this hell, abusing the semi-reset-able nature of the environment to cut a path to escape over two billion years. Two billion years of running, thinking and terror done over and over again, capping off each iteration by having to crawl to the respawn room while dying slowly and in tremendous agony.

Two billion years, and none of those iterations ever gave up.

Two billion years, and none of those iterations ever failed to make it back to the respawn room to set up the next cycle.

Two billion years, and he eventually got past 25 feet of the hardest material in the universe using naught but his brain, his fists, and the properties of the very hell they were using to interrogate him, without ever giving them what they wanted.

He punched his way out of an unwinnable situation and into Gallifrey through two billion years of cyclical suffering.

Holy fuck

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[–] thoughts-from-alex [S] 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Seems unlikely, admittedly, but it's always possible.