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[–] facepaint 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Here is the deal. Pre-internet the variety of Sci-Fiction available on TV was fairly slim pickings. So at the time, a time traveling man going on adventures on alien worlds was pretty damn good and stretched the limits of what you would see compared to the rest of the available SciFi.

Going back and watching the pre-internet Dr. Who series showed me that the stuff was pretty bad by today's standards.

Another consideration is that Dr. Who started off as a children's educational show. It morphed into a children's/teen's Science Fiction show over time. So it always tended to shy away from anything really scary, gross or too edgy for a young mind.

People love it because they grew up with it, and it has been around forever.

As far as the current series (2005+) The special affects are far better. Pacing is better. Acting is better. But it still holds back because it is still an all-ages show. Take it for what it is. It will always be at least a little bit lame. Enjoy the special effects. Enjoy the occasional creative story line. That is about it.

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[–] ShowMeThePunny 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

The older episodes were better IMO. Sets were expensive, and they couldn't afford a new one every episode, so they used the same set for like four episodes in a row. The TARDIS was just used to get them there. They go some place like a spaceship that the people regressed to medieval times and they spent 4 episodes on a story arch there. The pacing was slower and more deliberate. There often wasn't a galactic that but rather small character driven drama.

The new episodes pack everything into a one episode, they can't have it character driven so they end up some self contained mystery which The Doctor invariably uses the sonic screwdriver or the mechanics of time travel to break the system, then they leave. Moffat killed the show with endless moffating.

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[–] kjell 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Going back and watching the pre-internet Dr. Who series showed me that the stuff was pretty bad by today's standards.

But I still found the old Dr. Who watchable. I used to watch it on PBS and as cheesy as it was, it was at least entertaining. This new one is boring and preachy at times.

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[–] RoundWheel 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

First of all, so many people go in thinking it's science fiction. When it's really fantasy. Secondly, Dr. Who has turned to garbage many years ago. The last good episodes ended with David Tennant. It's become progressively worse every single season since. They now consider SJW bullshit to be more important than story telling, character development, or just simple, good writing. It is unwatchable now.

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[–] BigMatteson 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

I feel the same way about 'the smartest cartoon on TV'.

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[–] chags 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I though it was supposed to be silly, funny and not taken seriously. It has a bit of back to the future and a bit of Doctor Who and the lack of political correctness is a trope. I find it funny enough. Not the greatest thing on this world.

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[–] BigMatteson 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

I though it was supposed to be...funny

Yeah that's what people keep telling me, but I have yet to see it for myself.

It has a bit of back to the future and a bit of Doctor Who

I agree that it's a total rip off of much better shows/movies.

Not the greatest thing on this world.

I also agree with this statement.

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[–] gabara 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Rick & Morty?

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[–] BigMatteson 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

That's the piece of shit.

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[–] 22trilionAsecond 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Xavier Renegade Angel

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[–] 22trilionAsecond 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

the smartest cartoon on TV = Xavier Renegade Angel

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[–] Tanngrisnir 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

The original DW was autistic as fuck. I have a soft spot for it. The Doctor just said technobabble and saved the day and the secondary characters were all a worthless afterthought. There was nothing remotely close to normal human interactions and it was all about the plot.

New Who is a SJW product of a gay guy who as a kid dreamed of banging the middle aged Doctors on the screen. It is creepy Mary Sue fanfiction.

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[–] Piroko 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

There were some good episodes.

Mostly with the 4th Doctor.

Destiny of the Daleks has an interesting moment where Davros and the Doctor discuss the irony of the Daleks having been fought to a standstill by another race of machines. Their great fleets staring at each other motionless, hamstrung by predictions that to move first risks destruction. So they need their imperfect creator to break the tie.

"Congratulations, you've discovered peace."

Very relevant to the times they were in.

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[–] 1Sorry_SOB 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It made no sense to me when I saw reruns on TV. Somehow once I started watching entire early stories I really got into it.

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[–] tibstibs 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If you've only seen the reboot, I can see why you'd hate it.

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[–] cosmic_climb 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Some of the writing and forethought put into the story arcs are clever. Like how it's implied that Jack Harkness is the Face of Boe. The episode where The Doctor gets stuck in that craft with those tourists and the unknown entity was awesome, as far as TV goes. However, the show lives and dies by deploying deus ex machina to fix plot holes, resurrect dead characters, fix previously unfixable problems, and basically keep the larger story arc moving ahead. It cheapens the entire thing.

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[–] theoldones 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

from about the start of the rebooting of the series with bald-head leather guy, to before scottish dude shows up is good

everything after that, though...

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[–] Dark_Shroud 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The sad thing is that the actor who played 13 held the show up.

He put his foot down to stop the pointless romances of the Doctor. And they still mad the show go to shift.

This is the same path that led to the show being canceled last time.

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[–] Piroko 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Capaldi was a better at his job than the writers were at theirs. Give him a Terry Nation script to work with and he'd be the best doctor ever.

Terry Nation wrote many of the earlier Doctor Who scripts featuring the Daleks, as well as Blake's 7 and several episodes of MacGuyver.

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