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[–] toobaditworks 2 points 26 points (+28|-2) ago  (edited ago)

I'd love to see concrete proof of this. Everything you said basically anyone can say and has been saying.

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[–] Mylon 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I've seen the proof myself. Reddit has had a large number of questionable content appear on the front page. It forced me to drop a lot of default subs because I was getting sick of the bullshit.

Some examples of bullshit content:

* Drug overdose pictures. They topped WTF for a whole week. Most of the top comments were, "No, this is what happens when your dealer cuts it with shitty addititves"
* K9 puppy in an oversized vest in aww. Title, "He'll grow into it." It wasn't cute. It was just outright propaganda. I think I saw this twice, at least.
* DORITOS(tm). This was a big thing a while back. I don't see it too much anymore. This agrees with OP's story about how it started as product marketing and evolved into something.
* Top post of conspiracy a week ago was an AMA about this guy spouting the most insane shit. Lots of the posts were people backing him up. Stuff including "military officers on active space missions" and 60 years of reverse engineering alien tech and more. Oddly I don't see it now, but it looked like a dedicated attempt to discredit /r/conspiracy.
* Very sudden appearance of "Snowden is an active CIA agent" posts after the John Oliver interview. Or the sudden insurgence of Oklahoma City bombing theories. Like one post that was near the top it was a grainy picture of a fenced off area with rental trucks with no context.
* Random video of some black kid ranting at his cell phone that was on videos a week ago. Basically saying, "Not all cops are bad." Who fucking cares? It only was on the front page because it was manipulated to be there.

Reddit admins cannot possibly be blind to it. Sure, people like Unidan were able to get away with manipulating the system for a long time to gain amazing exposure and popularity under the Admin's nose, but honestly he was producing quality content. If anything, the sudden demonization of the man seems suspicious (but I could accept that just being the fickle tide once his methods were exposed).

I've seen posts with 2000 upvotes and < 100 comments and that immediately throws up a red flag. Just looking at these stats alone make the post look suspicious. And then you look at the post itself and you can see that certain parties benefit by the post content.

Now is the worst time to look because it's near the end of the business day, but some suspicious posts on reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BlackPeopleTwitter/comments/33gw5v/oh_hell_yeah/ - Almost 4000 votes and 86 comments from a sub with only 300k users. Promotes subtle racism. (Actually 3 posts from that sub in top 100. I never heard of it.)

https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/33gomx/cutest_government_worker/ - Lots of comments, but it is 8 hours old. Very much a pro-government picture. Trying to discount the fact that dog sniffing dogs are very inaccurate and are often used by cops to manufacture probable cause. In the comments, way, down, is a post 5 hours old with 25 votes with a generic response, but below that is one with 125 votes saying, "I'd let her violate my rights." Both 5 hours old. Why is the one with 5x as many votes ranked lower? Below that, with 400+ votes, "Upvoted because girl". The only posts challenging the narrative have been suppressed and ones promoting the narrative (or fulling it with mindless chatter) have been boosted.

You can find a lot more bullshit on the front page at 10 AM est. This post has already taken too much time to write, but I believe OP. Reddit has gone to shit.

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[–] Daveywavey 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

We have all seen the "proof" on Reddit. I just find it curious why this dude chose voat over the plethora of other sites available. I'm also curious as to why this guy wouldn't sell his story to a real publication.

I've never been in a paid shill position so perhaps he just needed to tell someone...but that doesn't even make sense as personal friends are better for that. Anyhow, I hope he is true to his word and comes forward with legitimate proof.

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[–] Daveywavey 2 points 8 points (+10|-2) ago 

Yeah, I'm kinda calling bullshit on this one. The fact that he admits he has a family, and hides behind this as a reason to not provide specifics is a bit telling. If I was doing an anonymous whistle blowing stint like this I would probably not even mention I have a family as it would only narrow down the search for me.

I honestly hope this guy is legit and can provide proof in the future, but a healthy dose of skepticism hasn't done me wrong yet, and I'll continue to apply it when necessary. Such is the case.

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[–] mHtt 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

being dumb doesn't make you a liar...

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[–] blipblipbeep 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Maybe they mentioned a family to throw people off the trail.

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[–] escapefromredditbay 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

im not saying that OPs post kind of blows your cover. but, this post is describing something something quite true.

you shill.

edit: also, a sign pointed out in posts is a disproportionate number of up-votes, like your comment is.

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[–] toobaditworks 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

I still can't downvote your comment so upvotes don't matter. Shill. Ha. Funny.

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[–] catechumen 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] escapefromredditbay 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

up-voted, but i trust the post.

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[–] PrometheusX 1 point 11 points (+12|-1) ago 

I guess what I mainly take away from all this is that some PR firms are a negative influence that work very hard behind the scenes to shape what is viewed as the truth, popular, or acceptable.

So what else is new?

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[–] cctv 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Yeah you pretty much described the last 90 years of Public Relations. What's new is that people don't assume public opinion on the Internet is shaped in the same way as other media, because here everyone can look as true or real as you.

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[–] un1ty 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

What's new is that people don't assume public opinion on the Internet is shaped in the same way as other media, because here everyone can look as true or real as you.

No, what's new is that the government of the alleged land of the free, home of the brave is actively sabotaging any possible freedom users perceived they had online. Not to mention that it's one thing to write articles in a magazine that are static - its completely different when you have dynamic content voted on in an apparent organic system of approval being manipulated at its core. Whats to stop them from changing votes in an election? If they have their PR game on point, thanks to studies and studies and research like from OP, they've got it in the bag.

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[–] catova 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Any shills attempting to control the dialog on /r/ufo? Seems to be a lot of debunking and insults, which push people away.

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[–] un1ty 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

Its McReddit - so yes.

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[–] ideasware 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Exactly my point as well -- I spend very little time there; it's a lot more like high school (or middle school or elementary school for heavens sake) recess, and I prefer voat.co to the blather over at reddit.com -- at least a little more adult.

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[–] QuestionEverything 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

You were never assigned UFO debunking? Interesting. I assume it's security level forbids outsourcing of that particular shilling job..

That's very telling in itself as to where the crux of this problem lies. This 'Dark government' behind the scenes, upholding whatever 'secret negotiations' were made. Corso didn't lie, and the Washington flyover in 1952 is irrefutable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toFkU3OK7pI

Careful with these posts. You don't have a side now. You can't sit on the fence. Who would you run to? FBI? CIA? You're in the beast now.

You're spreading propaganda, with US tax dollars. You'll say it's quasi legal,but technically the biggest question will be whether you are shot or imprisoned. Again, both sides will want this for you. Seriously risky.

If I were you: document, document document. Get IP's, times, everything you can that identifies their narrative. Find out who's paying the bills, where's the chain of command? Who are the customers? Follow the money.

Upload your data, share it. Torrent it. Throw it at Anonymous and civil action groups. -That's how you become a hero out of this. Otherwise, like I said. Both sides are going to want to hang you. If that's too brave for you, then gtfo. Don't support the machinery, -read your Thoreau.

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[–] Mylon 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Why bother collecting all of that info? You yourself said both sides would want him shot. If he publishes too much info, the parties in question could identify him and he'll be in hot water.

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[–] QuestionEverything ago 

The only thing I can be certain of is death. We're all going to die. Life goes on. Is where you leave better for your having been there? Or worse? Do you stand up for what is right? Or cower?

That's why.

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[–] logic_crusader ago 

Just curious I don't really care either way. What about this post is convincing to you? If you accept what this post is saying how do you know this isn't a lie as well? Shouldn't there be some standard of proof applied here?

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[–] QuestionEverything 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The existence of these shill companies/outfits has been confirmed by plenty of people. They've altered the law to make it 'legal'. They are growing steadily in size and scope.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks

http://www.rawstory.com/2011/02/exclusive-militarys-persona-software-cost-millions-used-for-classified-social-media-activities/

Ntrepid is just one of the bigger ones. These operations have been compartmentalized for damage control options beyond deniability.

Edit: Ntrepd is just another cog in a Big DOD system of quasi-gov't operations.

https://decryptedmatrix.com/trapwire-tied-to-anti-occupy-internet-spy-program-tartan-by-ntrepid-abraxas-cubic/

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[–] QuestionEverything ago 

You're making broad statements either to speculate or confuse.

If you want to see some UFO's just go look at all the times NASA shut off or switched the ISS live feeds. There's an ancient and advanced satellite in our orbit thats thousands of years old (Black Knight). Here's some ISS feeds: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=iss+live+feed+ufo

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[–] un1ty 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] catechumen 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

haha, I picked carsgot3pedals out as one myself. Would you be interested in posting your first link to /v/underreported? If not I'll toss it in my forth coming list.

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[–] un1ty 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Oh yeah, I forgot that I screen shot the PM's that /u/carsgot3pedals sent me during that whole episode. Good times! I never responded.

http://i.imgur.com/lzBgPHp.png

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[–] un1ty 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Sure thing!

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