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[–] qwop 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The problem is the anti-5G group has been hijacked by a sort of unscientific mob. This does not change the underlying science that this microwave radiation has effects on all biology. But it makes people that can't see past the mob group, think it is just some fad tinfoil idea.

The science shows that there is not always a linear relationship between exposure and effect. If something disrupts biological functions at one power level, then increasing the power (within reason), does not always equate to increased effects.

And if you look at heating effects only (your rock cutting tool example), you will never figure out the truth. The evidence for effects way below thermal threshold is well established at this point. This includes all types of electromagnetic radiation. From ELF (extremely low frequency) waves, all the way up to light frequencies.

If you don't think low-power EM waves have biological effects, then all you have to do is read the text you are reading right now. It is an electromagnetic wave hitting the cells in your retina, producing a biological effect which we happen to call vision. There is no rock cutting tool here. It is an extremely low power wave, and it easily interacts with your biology.

It is absolutely ignorant, to think biological interaction cannot happen in any other frequency band. Just plain physics says, any polar molecule or charged particle will be moved by EM waves. You body is full of these. Your mitochondria transports single electrons and protons. When you put these in an electromagnetic field, simple physics requires that there will be a force acting upon these particles. That means there will be biological effects, there is no way around it. And this is what we see in experiments, when cellular metabolism or normal function becomes disrupted. You can wish it away all you want, but physics is physics, and there is no way around it.

Next becomes the problem of quantifying these effects, and setting safe exposure limits. This work has not been done by any official body for standards. Not by the FDA, not by the CDC, not by the FCC, and not by ICNIRP in EU. They all look at only thermal effects, never at physics-based biological interactions. And this is the reason for the science community issuing its warnings. We are flying completely blind, and 5G will usher a new era of wireless pollution upon us, and none of the standard setting institutions, have any clue of what the effects will be. It is a live experiment, and that is the issue.

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[–] VOALTRON ago 

The science shows that there is not always a linear relationship between exposure and effect.

Effect is one thing, biological damage is another. And there is zero science that shows any sort of biological damage related directly to 5G frequencies, at their rated transmission power.

Again, a water hose spraying a body produces a biological effect. That isn't a damaging effect, and it certainly doesn't compare to being sprayed with a hydraulic cutting tool.

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[–] qwop 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

No, because 5G specifically, has not been tested. Would you board an airplane that was never tested? Your logic is based on "what I don't know, cannot hurt me".

We have abundant evidence on 2-4G already, and even some early epidemiological indications from the population that this is not good. This is akin to an airline known for poor manufacturing and crashes, but the new plane they build, never tested, is sure to be absolutely wonderful.

It has nothing to do with your analogy of pressure or power. The damage is already happening, at current levels.