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That was the first thing I noticed. He supposedly stood so far back there wasn't one hint of muzzle flash outside of the room. Where the fuck was all the brass? There should have been piles of it. And even a gun owner with little experience knows you don't need more than a couple rifles to what he supposedly did.
More than 200 of those rounds were in the hallway which leaves ~900 at the ground (and fuel tanks). That's better than 50% accuracy at moving targets in a sparsely populated huge space using an uncontrollable bump stock at over 1200 yards WITH WIND. No fucking way.
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There is so much wrong with this entire scenario. He only shot for 9 minutes and suddenly quit while having tons of loaded magazines? It took them over an hour AFTER he stopped shooting to breach his room? He shot himself in the head, somehow left a blood trail to the pistol 10 feet away. Oh yah, after killing himself with the pistol, an AR ended up on his left leg?
Where's this in-room video they talked about once and never mentioned again? I want to see him pulling the trigger. I want to see him using a bump stock with near perfect precision.
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Moving targets in a venue that was only 1/3 full... in the dark... with a bullet that doesn't have terminal velocity at that range... with a crosswind.
We know someone who was shot in Vegas. And she's definitely not an actor. People were absolutely shot and killed. Not saying it wasn't some kind of multi-shooter conspiracy, only saying people definitely were shot and killed.
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It wasn't sparsely populated...People were clustered together in tight groups. Some bullets probably hit multiple people. You are aware bullets continue THROUGH the target correct?
I'm not saying theres not some fuckery with the Vegas investigation just pointing out it's not that suprising if in that situation "Every other bullet hit someone" Even with how shittily accurate a bump stock is at long range. Those groups of people were 25x25 yards wide Well into the shooting.
At the start of the shooting you had people shoulder to shoulder over hundreds or square yards. Many of those first bullets hit two people... It's really not that hard to understand if you know anything about firearms.
There's quite a bit of footage showing that it wasn't that packed when the shooting started. I'll see if I can find it. But it certainly wasn't anywhere near capacity or what the crowds were at peak.
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[–] 11168041? [S] 0 points 27 points 27 points (+27|-0) ago
That was the first thing I noticed. He supposedly stood so far back there wasn't one hint of muzzle flash outside of the room. Where the fuck was all the brass? There should have been piles of it. And even a gun owner with little experience knows you don't need more than a couple rifles to what he supposedly did.
More than 200 of those rounds were in the hallway which leaves ~900 at the ground (and fuel tanks). That's better than 50% accuracy at moving targets in a sparsely populated huge space using an uncontrollable bump stock at over 1200 yards WITH WIND. No fucking way.
[–] WhiteRonin 0 points 16 points 16 points (+16|-0) ago
Even as a gun retard. From the beginning I was wondering how he didn't choke on all the smoke and fall over the cases.
[–] goodbyemoonmen 0 points 8 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago
Hadn't considered the smoke yet. They have absolutely botched this.
[–] 11168219? [S] 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago
There is so much wrong with this entire scenario. He only shot for 9 minutes and suddenly quit while having tons of loaded magazines? It took them over an hour AFTER he stopped shooting to breach his room? He shot himself in the head, somehow left a blood trail to the pistol 10 feet away. Oh yah, after killing himself with the pistol, an AR ended up on his left leg?
Where's this in-room video they talked about once and never mentioned again? I want to see him pulling the trigger. I want to see him using a bump stock with near perfect precision.
[–] Melissus 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Breaking another window to create crosswinds smells from miles as something a highly trained person would do.
[–] Oh_Well_ian 1 point 7 points 8 points (+8|-1) ago
nearly 60 kills and 600 hits ( remember, many claimed multiple hits ) with 900 rounds from 400 meters
impossible math
[–] 11168522? [S] 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
Moving targets in a venue that was only 1/3 full... in the dark... with a bullet that doesn't have terminal velocity at that range... with a crosswind.
[–] Oh_Well_ian 2 points 7 points 9 points (+9|-2) ago
not a single video exists of a victim being struck or a projectile striking terra firma
[–] 11168460? [S] 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
Yet, there are a few videos that show helicopters where they shouldn't be and audio (and witnesses) of more than one shooter. Weird, huh?
[–] TeranNotTerran 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Is this really true that there's not a single video of someone actually being shot? I found that doubtful but am curious.
[–] SocksOnCats 1 point 3 points 4 points (+4|-1) ago
We know someone who was shot in Vegas. And she's definitely not an actor. People were absolutely shot and killed. Not saying it wasn't some kind of multi-shooter conspiracy, only saying people definitely were shot and killed.
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[–] 0fsgivin 1 point 3 points 4 points (+4|-1) ago (edited ago)
It wasn't sparsely populated...People were clustered together in tight groups. Some bullets probably hit multiple people. You are aware bullets continue THROUGH the target correct?
I'm not saying theres not some fuckery with the Vegas investigation just pointing out it's not that suprising if in that situation "Every other bullet hit someone" Even with how shittily accurate a bump stock is at long range. Those groups of people were 25x25 yards wide Well into the shooting.
At the start of the shooting you had people shoulder to shoulder over hundreds or square yards. Many of those first bullets hit two people... It's really not that hard to understand if you know anything about firearms.
[–] 11173261? [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
There's quite a bit of footage showing that it wasn't that packed when the shooting started. I'll see if I can find it. But it certainly wasn't anywhere near capacity or what the crowds were at peak.