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[–] 1473916381 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Fuck the EPA. All it does is knowingly poison us with flouride or it sues farmers for farming or it shuts down clean coal plants so that they can be remade 1000 times dirtier in China. China should be trade banned if anyone actually gave a shit about the environment.

This article is not even a conspiracy. You give this flouride water to animals or children and they become retarded, easily reproducible and already well documented in several studies including Berkely.

Story at-a-glance -

Fluoride Action Network (FAN) is among a coalition of environmental, medical and health groups suing the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) to ban artificial water fluoridation

The EPA has been served with a petition that includes more than 2,500 pages of scientific documentation detailing the risks of water fluoridation to human health

New study quantifies fluoride’s potential to lower IQ in children. There are now over 100 animal studies and over 50 human studies proving fluoride’s neurotoxicity, prompting the U.S. government to fund new studies


[–] we_kill_creativity 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Could all of this have an effect on plants too? I ask, because of an experience I had switching watering our rather large garden with well water instead of city water. There was a drought for awhile, so my dad started needing to water all their plants or they would die. At first they used city water, ok, whatever. Then the drought was bad enough that you couldn't get caught using city water to water gardens, or we were rationed...something to do with the drought, but my dad ended up just using the well was a source of water. Not only did his plants not die, but they thrived... like, stunningly better with well water. We now use well water for our coffee and cooking. I'm trying to get them to just run the house off it so they don't have a water bill. Is it just the lack of chemicals that makes it so much better?


[–] qwop 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

There could be a lot of factors at play with your garden, but Mike Adams has been testing drinking water for free for consumers for a while now (, and he keeps finding heavy metal contamination all over the US. Therefore if you're using unfiltered city water it seems that you are playing water lottery. In addition to fluoride, which binds aggressively to calcium both in soil and in humans, there doesn't seem to be any guarantee that the water will be free of any other contaminants either.

So could it be the contaminants in city water? Yes, it could be. Could it be the well water is hard water (water containing high amounts of minerals, which plants like)? Yes, it could be that too. It could be both.

You can buy a water TDS (Total Dissolved Solids) meter of eBay for a few bucks. That will give you some idea of the mineral content of your well water, if you want to go slightly more scientific on it.

Good pure spring water will have a TDS below 10. That's almost like distilled water. Well water can have anything above 100 up to 1000 even. City water usually hovers around 100. The higher the TDS of the water, the more minerals it contains.


[–] hsjdlKSJADHLK2777 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Chlorine is probably the biggest problem when it comes to gardening. Tap water has chlorine in it. Plants rely and bacteria/fungus to digest the nutrients in the soil and pass it on to their roots. Chlorine kills a large percentage of this microbiology.