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I know they've had good and bad people, but you can't deny it strays far from the ekklesia style church gatherings early Christians practiced. I know it's not nearly as bad as the Pharisees but I do think it adds to the word, which is never a good thing.
Problems I have with Catholicism:
You pray to some guy named Father when there is only one Father who we have a personal relationship with, making that dude pointless.
Churches are some holy place. We are God's temple. Nowhere in the new testament does it mention holy places. Check out 1 Corinthians 3:16.
People pray to Saints. Enough said there.
It's littered with Pagan influence: ash Wednesday, Santa, Easter bunny, painted eggs, etc.
Your quite said "obeying the Commandments of their Church." why does a church have commandments?
Message me if you want to talk about this more. I love learning and sharing with people.
(To catholics, there is a difference between worship and prayer. Worship is adoration, adoring only God. In prayer one can ask for someone to pray for you. Whether it is a saint, a loved one, or anyone else. Furthermore, we do not pray to "dead people", saints are not dead but are "alive in Christ" as the bible teaches.)
The Tridentine Latin mass has been practiced from the beginning of Christianity. Of course, the settings have changed.
Catholics do not worship the Church building. However, churches are beautiful, but catholic misionaries conduct services wherever they go. Catholic priests have performed mass on the battlefield. Here is a link about the "oneness" of Christ's Church:http://myocn.net/church-one-holy-catholic-apostolic/
As Catholic, we follow scripture, tradition, and the church. Christ founded the church when he said, "you are Peter, upon this rock I will build my church." Peter in greek means "rock", so you can't think he means anything else. Peter was the first pope.
Protestantism is a jewish lie, Calvin was ethnically jewish and is NOT Christian. "Sola scriptura" which means "scripture alone" is a heresy. Scripture must be studied in light of the original Christians... Why is this? Look at the 100043104 different protestant denominations who disagree on matters of faith for your answer.
Christs church is not divided, it is his body.
Seeing as confession to priests often comes up... Christ clearly gave the first bishops authority to forgive sins and retain them. So why don't protestants continue this?https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-forgiveness-of-sins
I see what you mean with the title Father, but I still disagree with them having such a position. I guess the biggest thing we see a difference in is I see the church as a group of equal people all participating in worship and learning. Of course you'll have leaders and elders, but nothing like the laity and clergy divide, where one group is perceived as closer to God.
One thing about that link you sent about the fathers is all quotes regarding priests are centuries after Christ, many around Constantine's era.
I had asked a few Catholics about the Saint thing and have never gotten a straight answer. Thanks! Is that something you guys do all the time or just occasionally? Sounds fine as long as you still have a personal relationship with God.
I grew up with the holidays too but I think they're something we need to change. The Easter(Ishtar) bunny, Santa, tree, etc. are things we end up making the focal point of the holidays. Sucks because I love Christmas trees.
"Calvin was ethnically jewish" so was Jesus. The original Christians mostly met in houses. The planters started churches and left them to grow and learn. There are many different Christian branches, but the fact that there's only one Catholic church doesn't mean it's right about everything. Does having one utility company in town make it a good utility company?
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[–] soggywaffles ago
I know they've had good and bad people, but you can't deny it strays far from the ekklesia style church gatherings early Christians practiced. I know it's not nearly as bad as the Pharisees but I do think it adds to the word, which is never a good thing. Problems I have with Catholicism:
You pray to some guy named Father when there is only one Father who we have a personal relationship with, making that dude pointless.
Churches are some holy place. We are God's temple. Nowhere in the new testament does it mention holy places. Check out 1 Corinthians 3:16.
People pray to Saints. Enough said there.
It's littered with Pagan influence: ash Wednesday, Santa, Easter bunny, painted eggs, etc.
Your quite said "obeying the Commandments of their Church." why does a church have commandments? Message me if you want to talk about this more. I love learning and sharing with people.
[–] tomii [S] ago (edited ago)
I can't send private messages lol, I will post my rather lengthy reply here, hope it is helpful in some way...
I am going to send you some links in regard to each question, this is because its much easier than typing it out here. Feel free to skim each link.
Calling Priests father: https://www.catholic.com/tract/call-no-man-father
(To catholics, there is a difference between worship and prayer. Worship is adoration, adoring only God. In prayer one can ask for someone to pray for you. Whether it is a saint, a loved one, or anyone else. Furthermore, we do not pray to "dead people", saints are not dead but are "alive in Christ" as the bible teaches.)
The Tridentine Latin mass has been practiced from the beginning of Christianity. Of course, the settings have changed.
Catholics do not worship the Church building. However, churches are beautiful, but catholic misionaries conduct services wherever they go. Catholic priests have performed mass on the battlefield. Here is a link about the "oneness" of Christ's Church: http://myocn.net/church-one-holy-catholic-apostolic/
No Catholic worhips saints, however we do ask them to "pray for us", like the original Christians did: https://energeticprocession.wordpress.com/2011/07/29/prayers-to-saints-in-the-pre-nicene-era/
Here is another link of the original Christians quoted as praying to (not worshiping) the saints: https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-intercession-of-the-saints
Pagan holidays, forum post and replies from catholics: https://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=113267
As Catholic, we follow scripture, tradition, and the church. Christ founded the church when he said, "you are Peter, upon this rock I will build my church." Peter in greek means "rock", so you can't think he means anything else. Peter was the first pope.
Protestantism is a jewish lie, Calvin was ethnically jewish and is NOT Christian. "Sola scriptura" which means "scripture alone" is a heresy. Scripture must be studied in light of the original Christians... Why is this? Look at the 100043104 different protestant denominations who disagree on matters of faith for your answer.
Christs church is not divided, it is his body.
Seeing as confession to priests often comes up... Christ clearly gave the first bishops authority to forgive sins and retain them. So why don't protestants continue this? https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-forgiveness-of-sins
Church fathers on confession: http://www.stsophiaukrainian.cc/resources/ecfonconfession/
As the joke goes, if you want to be a protestant; don't read the Church Fathers.
God bless my friend
[–] soggywaffles ago
I see what you mean with the title Father, but I still disagree with them having such a position. I guess the biggest thing we see a difference in is I see the church as a group of equal people all participating in worship and learning. Of course you'll have leaders and elders, but nothing like the laity and clergy divide, where one group is perceived as closer to God.
One thing about that link you sent about the fathers is all quotes regarding priests are centuries after Christ, many around Constantine's era.
I had asked a few Catholics about the Saint thing and have never gotten a straight answer. Thanks! Is that something you guys do all the time or just occasionally? Sounds fine as long as you still have a personal relationship with God.
I grew up with the holidays too but I think they're something we need to change. The Easter(Ishtar) bunny, Santa, tree, etc. are things we end up making the focal point of the holidays. Sucks because I love Christmas trees.
Read this in regards to men forgiving sins: https://carm.org/john2023-priests-forgive-sins .
"Calvin was ethnically jewish" so was Jesus. The original Christians mostly met in houses. The planters started churches and left them to grow and learn. There are many different Christian branches, but the fact that there's only one Catholic church doesn't mean it's right about everything. Does having one utility company in town make it a good utility company?