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[–] Redpilled_Canadian 1 points 27 points (+28|-1) ago 

I really hope he does the right thing. This will definitely set the tone for his future term based on his decision which ultimately chooses a side.

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[–] jerry 3 points 11 points (+14|-3) ago 

I hope he does too. Its best to try and remain optimistic. But Trump isnt a proponent of internet privacy. He supports the nsa spying.

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[–] chirock 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

I really hope he reads the newspaper. Maybe they should have tweeted him.

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[–] senpaithatignoresyou 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

No one reads the newspapers, it has gotten to the point where coupons just mail themselves to you because everyone fucking hates the news papers.

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[–] heretolearn 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

buy their internet history

https://searchinternethistory.com/

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[–] GIF-lLL-S0NG 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The Cybersecurity Information Sharing Act (CISA S. 2588 [113th Congress], S. 754. already subjects "US ALL" to spying and it is ok and nobody is taking that data collection to issue. This only had to do with which federal agency the NSA uses a front for destroying innovation.

But this says: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/sjres34/summary

The Federal Trade Commission maintains jurisdiction over most aspects of the Internet. But after the 2016 election during the lame-duck session, another Washington agency called the Federal Communications Commission issued new regulations related specifically to Internet service providers, also known as ISPs.

These new rules required all Internet browsing data, as well as data regarding app usage on mobile devices, be subject to the same privacy requirements as sensitive or private personal information. This overtook the previous rule by the FTC, the agency which previously had authority over regulating ISP’s and differentiated privacy requirements based upon the sensitivity of the information, with more stringent rules for such things as health information or Social Security numbers. The methods are also more invasive to the ISP companies, since the FCC also issues pre-emptive regulations while the FTC primarily conducted investigations

What it did was expand baseless data collection under the authority of the executive order. How can you (As an ISP) have different privacy requirements for different data without storing scanning and analyzing it? They cant. Letting the obama executive order was a slippery slope towards dictatorship. CISA structures the legal methods for bulk data collection and sharing without court orders.

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[–] JodaMAX 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

This is make it or break it for me, if he doesn't veto this we know he's gonna be same shit as before and I'm done defending him.

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[–] greycloud 4 points 4 points (+8|-4) ago 

google is shilling. all the things this bill would allow ISPs to do, other companies are already doing. some companies just want a monopoly on it. I say fuck it, if the government can do it, than everyone should be able to do it. putting this type of shit in a monopoly is just a way to control political speech. everyone should have the ability to spy on everyone just as much as the police can do without a warrant.

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[–] chirock 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

There's a little difference here. We pay ISPs for internet access and many places don't have a choice of internet providers. When google data mines the fuck out of us, that's the cost of us using their billion dollar infrastructure for searching, email, and spreadsheets. It's a consentual fuck as opposed to an unexpected fucking.

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[–] greycloud 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I think this will lead to more competition in the ISP market. I expect small companies that operate similar to T-Mobile to pop up, where they lease bandwidth and wire use from other providers to provide a different service. the same line is used by multiple ISP's. one actually owns the wires and leases to others. one charges customers more but doesn't sell data, another charges less but sells data. you pay for privacy. keep in mind though that it is possible that you run 2 VPN's and connect to VPN A to VPN B to internet, and then what does your data look like? not super useful for selling. so perhaps we will simply see a whole lot more VPN's popping up.

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[–] AllDancingCrap 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Well if you put it in that way then yes why not. But not everyone will be spying and not everyone is interested, so why make it easier for the people that have the power, the means and the will to do it?. At least if they keep it illegal it cant be used legitimately, that is if we still live under the rule of law. If not well then this is pretty much a every human for itself situation.

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[–] greycloud 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

the rule of law benefits the powerful at the expense of the not powerful. don't fool yourself into thinking otherwise. who writes the laws? at least in a every person for themselves situation, people can gather together in large groups to overpower the small group of oligarchs that currently write the laws.

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[–] Baconmon 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Guys, I don't like jumping to conclusions.. I want to give Trump the benefit of the doubt here:
Are there any good reasons that we aren't aware of that he might let this pass besides helping out giant corporations spy on more people?..

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[–] foltaisaprovenshill 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

So technically they were already allowed to, and all this bill is doing is getting rid of proposed Obama-era changes that would have stopped ISPs ability to sell that data.

So nothing is actually changing.

Besides, it's not like it makes much difference considering the NSA has low level taps on all internet traffic anyway, and sells that information to advertisers and others themselves. Until that's stopped, this doesn't even matter.

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[–] FuckingInsaneGoat 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This is my question too. Is there something to this that makes it more than just the giant privacy fuck you and corporate cash grab its being portrayed as?

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[–] Dashippy 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

This is going to be the first major test for President Trump. If he lets this pass he's fucked and he's lost every ounce of support he had.

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[–] valk2 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Take out an article in a paper the president hates and likely doesn't read. Smart move people.

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[–] SaneGoatiSwear1 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

one thing anonymoose used to leejun with was faxing all black pages to troll congress critters but that was back when they actually did shit instead of just be a front for CIA psyops (to push through online harassment / hate-speech / cybercrime laws).

of course 4chins didn't invent black faxing.

just made it poopular.

i like the all-black background. they had to pay for the full page ad so they waste as much ink as possible to give the finger to the news paper and also tip the fedora to others who are in on the black faxing.

kek approves.

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