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[–] gramman74 0 points 23 points (+23|-0) ago 

Good point. I seem to remember a school, that was using school assigned laptops to spy on kids. anybody remember that ?

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[–] Dissident_Aggressor 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

Happened in Pennsylvania, yes.

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[–] gramman74 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Thanks

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[–] partypoison77 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

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[–] gramman74 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Thanks

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[–] red_q 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

Saw you guys on /v/all, thought I'd butt in a bit. It's up to you how much tinfoil you use, but turning on a webcam while avoiding the indicator LED is definitely possible:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/18/research-shows-how-macbook-webcams-can-spy-on-their-users-without-warning/

It goes deeper than you'd think. MacBooks had their "webcam-on" indicators - supposedly - hardwired in. That means, it's a hardware function, not software, so it shouldn't be possible to hack it. Yet, here we are. Goes to show that no matter how secure you think your technology is, you aren't safe from human/engineering mistakes, or backdoors for that matter.

There were also some Flash vulnerabilities that allowed turning on webcams while avoiding their indicator lights - this worked on cams that had their LED turned on by software, AFAIK. Speaking of Flash, it's a total security train wreck, and as it's still used sometimes on the internet, you'd better use caution with it.

Some more on this:

Windows registry keys: http://blog.erratasec.com/2013/12/how-to-disable-webcam-light-on-windows.html

Flash hack: http://feross.org/webcam-spy/

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[–] fuckthisshitagain 0 points 18 points (+18|-0) ago 

I wonder how many times they've turned on some "terrorists" camera only to find some fat dude wanking.

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[–] jasenlee [S] 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

That must be the worst part of their job. I can hear it already...

"Shit Rob... I just cycled through the latest rolls of those on the lists and hit 3 whackers in a row. Can I please take my smoke break 10 minutes early?"

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[–] Megaptera 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

It's always hit or miss with chat roulette.

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[–] ex-redd 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Reminds me of Cartman introducing Kyle to Chat Roulette in South Park. "Guy whacking it. Guy whacking it. Guy whacking it...."

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[–] ScreaminMime 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Not sure if that is better or worse than hacking in during toilet time... can they tell a difference?

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[–] Vvswiftvv17 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

How much of it comes from programs you gave permission too though? Like FB?

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[–] timsandtoms 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Also worth noting is if you have a tablet or smart phone, just how many apps you've given camera permissions to. If you have a rooted Android phone, you can use something like App Ops to revoke permissions to the camera for apps that don't need it. If you have an Apple phone, you can try using this.

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[–] jasenlee [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I wish I could send this comment to the top. This is another important one people forget about.

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[–] OftenTooRude 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Even more insidious: Built-in microphones in laptops. Sometimes the only fix is to take a drill to them.

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[–] Questionssm 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Can't tell if serious.

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[–] jasenlee [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It's actually very serious.

People are now developing viruses which can transmit by sound. Seems ridiculous right? But think of old telephones or old modems. Those tones they were essentially sending were data when a modem was doing a handshake or you touch-tone dialed.

People are now working on viruses that are two-fold where it infects your computer and then can start communicating to other computing devices via high-pitched frequencies. Some are worried that once they get even more sophisticated the tones will be of such frequency it won't be heard by a human ear much like a dog whistle. It's such a new thing that I don't think anyone has a handle on what people plan on doing with them.

And this is not some tin-foil shit. Top security experts are very concerned about it. Here are a couple of articles I found:

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[–] Professor_Chemical 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Dude, good thing I don't have a webcam. I get viruses regularly.

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[–] HomerSimpson 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Can't tell if cerial.

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[–] DaBagel 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

For anyone who is on OSX and doesn't want tape on their computer, there's an idownload blog post with a isight camera disable/reenable script. http://www.idownloadblog.com/2015/02/19/disable-isight-mac/

And here's an icon to go with it. http://www.iconarchive.com/show/mono-general-3-icons-by-custom-icon-design/camera-icon.html

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[–] timsandtoms 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

The problem with software solutions is that they're software solutions. What prevents other software from just undoing the change you made?

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[–] DaBagel 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Well it's a matter of trusting software that you haven't reviewed yourself. Now someone smart enough to write a malicious program that can undue preventive measures without needing you to type your admin password is a big what-if and would not have been preventable anyway. So if you don't trust the software then use tape, or both!

And really the best way to be safe is write all of your own code. But that is horribly unrealistic.

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