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[–] philomath 1 points 24 points (+25|-1) ago 

Seems like the dude gave way too much info on himself for somebody leaking classified information.

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[–] XAPHAN 2 points -1 points (+1|-2) ago 

This is old news. I have heard of this before.

Didn't we already know this?

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[–] frizla 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah we did, for a few years now. But this story is fake and gay.

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[–] 8519390? 4 points -2 points (+2|-4) ago 

this, while i wouldn't be surprised if it were to come out in complete transparency that this happens, in fact i'm sure it does, but there's no reason to believe this is coming from an actual employee

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[–] VicariousJambi 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Maybe he made up a "credible" story to cover his tracks?

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[–] 8547939? 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

why so many downvotes? am i a shill for making a fairly neutral, logical observation? lmao

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[–] philomath 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I don't know that it for sure is, but I certainly wouldn't be surprised.

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[–] o0shad0o 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

The management engine's potential for backdooring is well known. AMD has a similar setup.

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[–] Wuttier [S] 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

Would love to see some more inside info on that as well.

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[–] djsumdog 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

There are people who have attempted to disable and remove ME. It's pretty difficult .. lots of things that, if you chance, will just brick the motherboard. There are a lot of signature and checksum checks.

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[–] o0shad0o 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

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[–] libertyordeath 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

If it is so well known...why didn't you provide evidence. Why didn't you try to stop it? If you knew and did nothing, you are part of the problem

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[–] o0shad0o 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You're right. 'Scuse me while I go bomb an intel chip factory. 9_9

Go google "intel management engine security".

Also, a way has been found to disable the engine. Note that it may also deactivate any late version of Windows (many W7 installs included) and not let you reactivate them.

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[–] IBNSFW 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

The thread is on archive.is but I don't have the link off hand. I'm sure some crafty person can pick it out at some point.

E: 3 links for your reading pleasure. ty @magical_liopleurodon

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[–] IBNSFW 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

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[–] magical_liopleurodon 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

here's a recent one: http://archive.is/Nan9O

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[–] magical_liopleurodon 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

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[–] killyurmaster 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Does a similar technology exist in AMD chips...if anyone knows?

I'll say no. So that way someone'll correct me if I'm wrong.

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[–] bob3333 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yes

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[–] 8524725? 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yes, but they haven't had it for as long as Intel. You can still build a somewhat-modern AMD computer without the PSP.

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[–] 8519331? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

hmmmm

this a good day

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[–] 8519561? 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Wonder if ill have to use my ak. (I hope)

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[–] 8519700? 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

I don't know for you, but my daily concern, isn't about protecting myself against any random spook agency

It's rather much more about protecting myself against random thugs and retards

...

Even if you're into leakage of classified information or whistle blowing, look at snowden, william binnie, sibel edmonds, assange, a firearm will most likely be of little use on a day to day basis when it comes to dealing with big bro

...

Edit: Never mind, I replied with the title on the thread in mind, not the post you were replying to

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[–] Deret_Sigernu 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

How do you silence people who oppose the government?

You create a Snowden and spread the message that everyone is being watched.

You make sure it gets full media coverage.

You tell the public that they can be imprisoned without trial.

While it all may be true, it served a purpose to let everyone in on the secret.

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[–] TeranNotTerran 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This sounds like bogus to me. How is a co-processor going to know where in memory to look for network settings and how to actually write data out a network device? Especially a wireless device...

This is super tricky and unlikely to work well. I would be more worried about system on a chip and cases where the NIC is more tightly coupled. Even so, you can just monitor for traffic from the box and see what it's sending that you aren't telling it to send.

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[–] djsumdog 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

You don't know anything about vPro/ME you? ME is similar to HPs iLo .. it's an entire mini operating system/firmware on the hardware in case you screw up the software on the actual server. (If you have a rack of 1,000 servers, you can see why this is important).

It grants full console access and is attached directly to the north bridge in order to preform diagnostics. It runs independently of the OS and has its own memory space when the host OS is running, but if you boot directly into it, it runs as the primary OS. It does have total direct memory access to the host OS, even while it's running.

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[–] TeranNotTerran 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I am familiar with iLO and DRAC. The issue is that they are out-of-band. A backdoor doesn't matter unless you can get into it and out of it. Generally those run on separate networks although that is not always the case.

To write a thin firmware that can read the memory of the host OS and figure out network details is tricky. What if you are connected to a WPA access point, how do you get the key? Memory contents are not very stable ABIs, to say the least. Nor reliable.

The coprocessor could prove most useful with physical access to get data off the machine. But for it to find a way out and phone home is very tricky.

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[–] frenchtoasters 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Think about why does the government not want to upgrade their computer infrastructure to something outside of the Core 2. Wonder if Xeon series is compromised?

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