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[–] eraptic 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Just to add onto this point, my biggest gripe is that I can simply use duckduckgo instead of Google, I can use Ghostery, noScript and other privacy enhancing tools. The internet was already full of entities trying to get my information and browsing habits, the wild wild west if you will. We expected this and I would hope most laypeople who weren't as tech savvy were aware of this to some degree. An everyday Windows user may not realise the dynamic has changed quite this much and couldn't reasonably be expected to know how to protect themselves in this new environment.

The big difference here I feel is this is being done at the operating system level which really is the keys to the kingdom. While Apple may do similar things with OSX, there's also a reason I avoid Apple products (ever since iTunes DRM)

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[–] kzmokramr2 [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

What about your smartphone? You're getting tracked like crazy there from either Google or Apple. That's at the OS level of your phone... MS isn't any worse is my point. They just seem to be jumping on the bandwagon late...

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[–] kzmokramr2 [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If you are that adamant about Windows, why are you still using your smartphone? If you were that concerned, you'd be back using the old Nokia that did nothing but text and dial, right?

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[–] Bill413 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

One point that doesn't get mentioned a lot is the forced upgrades. Although I understand the desire to have the OS up to date (it makes a lot of sense from a security view, and makes further update processes easier to write), I've too often seen applications broken by updates. Large enterprises can delay the process, but the small user doesn't have much choice. This can be a real problem if your business depends on something that is version dependent; not all vendors are quick to update their programs. (As an example, we still need IE 8 for one of our business apps.)

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[–] MFToes 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

that's one of the problems, and you so easily accept being tracked and confined, it shouldnt come laced with these things, it needs only to operate not gather/spy/cloud while I'm sittin here playing a mindless game

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[–] kzmokramr2 [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That isn't my argument. Do you use a smartphone? How is Windows 10 any worse than all the tracking happening on your smartphone? My point is that MS isn't any worse than what we're already being subjected to...