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[–] MommaSpitfire [S] ago 

I don't understand the connection though. The Civil War wasn't even over slavery until the issuance of the Emancipation Proclamation, which freed the slaves in the Confederacy before it even freed the slaves in the border states and the reclaimed rebel states. I mean, if there is such a connection, how is it okay to make the Confederate flag a symbol of racism before the American flag, which was the flag flown over the slave ships and the flag flown over the Union-loyal states that still had slaves even after the Emancipation Proclamation?

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[–] SquarebobSpongebutt 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Let's be honest. It was over slavery. Look at the Cornerstone Speech given by the Vice-President of the Confederacy in 1861.

The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions—African slavery as it exists among us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution.

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[–] BippityBop 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Southerner here, raised on all the same propaganda this guy was, and the Cornerstone Speech has always been my ace in the hole for arguing with my fellow Southerners.

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[–] MommaSpitfire [S] 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Actually, it wasn't over slavery. The focus of the Civil War didn't even switch over to slavery until the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863, which didn't even ban slavery in the Union-loyal border states, only in the Confederate states. The slaves in border states of the Union weren't even freed until the thirteenth amendment in 1865. Slavery was not the driving force behind the Civil War.

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[–] Vinylismist 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I'd argue that the American Flag is also a symbol of oppression for those reasons and more, but I come from an anarchist pov, so it's to be expected. The only argument I have that might work for you is that the American Flag has been around for longer and has therefore accumulated different meanings throughout its life. It's been around for a long and continuous period of time, and here fore has the right for a more flexible and interchangeable meaning. Since the confederate flag was used for one purpose, to be flown under the confederacy of the South and be used for what he South stood for back then, it's become a symbol of oppression.

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[–] MommaSpitfire [S] ago 

That's the thing I find so weird about it. The Confederate battle flag wasn't even the official flag of the Confederacy for the majority of the Confederacy.