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[–] Vinylismist 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

People claim that the Civil War was fought over slavery, but we learned in history class that it was fought over money.

You're right on the fact that the war was fought because of money and the economy, but that wasn't all it was fought for. The South was huge in agriculture, which is where most of the money it produced came from. Slaves were often the ones who had to do the work of the agricultural processes. That's what the North didn't like. They were more in favor of getting rid of slavery, but the South didn't want to hear any of it because it was too profitable for them. That was one of the reasons why the south broke off and war started. It wasn't the only reason, but it was one of the reasons. Because of the pro-slavery reasoning, it's attached to ideals and values that the Confederacy stood for, and therefore carried on to the flag that represented the Confederacy and all it stood for. The Confederacy may have stood for other things other than racism and slavery, but it was definitely a factor that played into what it did stand for overall, and is therefore considered to be a symbol of oppression.

I honestly don't think the flag should be banned though. I wouldn't promote the use of the flag, but much in the same why that I wouldn't promote the use of heroin - I think it's a stupid idea, but you should able to do what you want with your life. I think people need to realize what the flag stands for and realize what they're promoting when they do show it off or fly it, but it shouldn't be banned. If one were to fly it and show it off with pride, I'd probably consider them a racist without a doubt in my mind.

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[–] MommaSpitfire [S] ago 

I don't understand the connection though. The Civil War wasn't even over slavery until the issuance of the Emancipation Proclamation, which freed the slaves in the Confederacy before it even freed the slaves in the border states and the reclaimed rebel states. I mean, if there is such a connection, how is it okay to make the Confederate flag a symbol of racism before the American flag, which was the flag flown over the slave ships and the flag flown over the Union-loyal states that still had slaves even after the Emancipation Proclamation?


[–] 469768? 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Let's be honest. It was over slavery. Look at the Cornerstone Speech given by the Vice-President of the Confederacy in 1861.

The new Constitution has put at rest forever all the agitating questions relating to our peculiar institutions—African slavery as it exists among us—the proper status of the negro in our form of civilization. This was the immediate cause of the late rupture and present revolution.


[–] Vinylismist 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I'd argue that the American Flag is also a symbol of oppression for those reasons and more, but I come from an anarchist pov, so it's to be expected. The only argument I have that might work for you is that the American Flag has been around for longer and has therefore accumulated different meanings throughout its life. It's been around for a long and continuous period of time, and here fore has the right for a more flexible and interchangeable meaning. Since the confederate flag was used for one purpose, to be flown under the confederacy of the South and be used for what he South stood for back then, it's become a symbol of oppression.