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[–] Pattoe 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago  (edited ago)

There are too many people who are too invested in organised religion, or too deranged, to let this happen. It would cause an absolute shit storm.

People are idiots and need other people to tell them what to think or feel. Another power would rise to take religions place and it won't be any better.

I like the idea behind this submission though.

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[–] Salicaz [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Thanks for your input. Yeah the troubling aspect is what would come after? Are we really better with "Better the devil we know?" Excuse the pun.

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[–] Pattoe 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

To be honest I think the media has been rising up to control the masses for quite a while now.

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[–] SpiceRunner 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

So then wouldn't it be most easily fought by propping up another system of validation? Patriotism, or some peer reviewed system of morality for example.

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[–] Ariastrasza 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

There are those who truly need somebody to tell them what to do, some people have done terrible things and they have found comfort in religion, over the overwhelming need to feel forgiven for their actions, this is what keeps religions going.

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[–] ScientiaPotentia 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Islam must be overcome by humanity.

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[–] X____sign_here____ 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Firstly I'd like to point out I'm not attacking peoples faith.

That is exactly what you should be attacking. The reason people believe in religion, and organized religions, is because of faith. Faith is not a virtue. It is magical thinking. It is believing in something without a good reason. Without questioning it. It is the opposite of critical thinking.

As long as faith is considered a "good thing", religions will thrive.

People say they should have the freedom to believe in whatever they want. Sure, ok. But they have to stop being coddled for being "faithful". If someone believes they can see the future by looking at a deck of cards, they should be called out on it. If they believe personality traits are determined by where the planets were at the time of someones birth, they should be called out. If someone believes they can speak with the dead, call them out. This is all unprovable nonsense. Same thing goes with magic sky men who created man out of a pile of dust. We know this is not true. Why coddle the people who believe this shit? Call them out.

"But I have faith these things are correct."

"Well, your faith is wrong and it can be proved wrong. Wake up!"

But in today's world, organized religion has no place.

Faith has no place. We can not be a truly civilized society with faith lurking in the shadows.

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[–] Salicaz [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I agree completely! I was probably rather more tempered in my opening arguments.

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[–] Le_Squish 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I don't think you would accomplish anything by doing so. Greedy people that want to kill, steal and disenfranchise other humans will always find some popular ideology or philosophy to distory to get them to those ends. Think of the perversion of capitalism and free markets we have today. I think the real enemy is centralized authority of any kind.

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[–] ObeyTheFist 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

We are, we have schools. They work pretty well so long as you don't let priests in.

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[–] carlip 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

Public school merely substitutes state for god.

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[–] ObeyTheFist 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

You're an idiot.

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[–] farmer- 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

While, even as a Christian, I agree with you, I don't think this is a very realistic possibility. People in my religion that a church is not the building where Christians congregate but rather the Christians themselves. If many people believe the same things, you can't just tell them to not identify as a catholic or a Jew or a Muslim or whatever. Christians are taught to seek out others to hold each other accountable. One my favorite verses in particular is "as iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another." I don't think organized religion could ever be disbanded because the community is what keeps the religion strong. Sure it's used for bad things sometimes but it's not something that can just be controlled

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