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[–] bob3333 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Without the right regulation and enforcement, capitalism will always turn into corporatism. Because if there's no regulation, businesses will create it.

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[–] theshopper 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

"Without the right regulation and enforcement, capitalism will always turn into corporatism. Because if there's no regulation, businesses will create it."

Who watches the fucking watchmen? Human nature is the culprit.

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[–] bob3333 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Who watches the fucking watchmen? Human nature is the culprit.

Exactly. Pure market capitalism doesn't work for the same reason communism doesn't work, because people are crooks and liars. Given the opportunity they will game the system to rob everyone. Because it's human nature there's nothing that can be done to guarantee it never happens, but you can structure your systems so it's more difficult (like blocking monopolies, duopolies, price fixing, political donations, false advertising, etc.). That's the right regulation and enforcement. Regulation is a tool just like a firearm. It can be used for good or for evil, and just because it can be used for evil is no reason to ban it.

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[–] WhiteRonin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

That’s what a socialist would say.

A better method is a corporation that considers its employees and country. Japan does rather well being social capitalist.

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[–] bob3333 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

They're in business to make money, not make life good for their employees or country. It's like saying what would be better than building prisons for murderers would be if people just wouldn't murder. Yes, that would be better but it's never going to happen.

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[–] BlackSheepBrouhaha 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

If the market demands a state, you'll have one.

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[–] DeadFox 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

The market should follow the state, not the other way around lol.

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[–] WhiteRonin 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Corporations were started by the Dutch to save themselves from being sued by widows of dead sailors and from losses occurred at sea.

Why would a shipping corporation want to limit the life of this ability.

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[–] DrShitlord 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yip. One of the things some lefties got right.

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[–] RugerLCP_2 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

*The original owner is kicked out of the company because they had to use VCs and don't own 50% of it anymore, corporate espionage stole their product for a company that has unlimited funding, or credit card companies banded together and stopped processing payments for the company.

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[–] WhiteRonin 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Fine line here.

Google would be the latest example of the intended idea of this post. Went from rather benevolent over lords to flat out sell you out for a shekel.

Come to think of it, Apple still sort of sits on the left. Sure they fight over curved edges but you don’t see them doing shit like AT&T and its children.

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[–] drakesdoom2 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Why would they sell you out? They already reamed out your ass when bought their product.

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[–] WhiteRonin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Oh gawd, another Apple hater? Ok, I had el cheapo android — they suck. Apple works for me. I find myself more productive and time is money. I save time, I save money. Windows and android wastes my time and money. Yes, I have a hackintosh so I have cheap pc crap going.

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[–] CuriosityOnFire 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Oy vey the state shows up. Vote for the state goyim!

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[–] Durm 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah and right now people can make new things, but the channels for selling those are getting locked down again, and for everything else the payment systems are getting locked down.

PayPal still keeps the door propped open for so many, but with so many violations PayPal has also unfairly dashed so many dreams. Without them the internet would close to a tiny constricted bunghole for so many regular people making things... I mean typically the gov doesn't go after and shut things down with some interpretation of the law without someone else crying, like the big guys. So many examples....

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[–] Big_Willy_Wallace 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

ITT: Noooo but but but but but but but........

Fucking shills.

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[–] Saufsoldat 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

"Real capitalism has never been tried!!!!!"

Okay, buddy, go back to art school.

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[–] WhiteRonin 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Oh right! Monopolies became illegal.

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