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[–] 4117359? 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

One note, the current federal budget in Switzerland is 66.353 billion Francs as of 2014. This plan would require an additional 150 billion Francs of taxation.

So it's clear on the face of it that this would not likely be a revenue neutral proposal. Taxes would go up quite substantially.

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[–] TheDude2 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

It's ok because everyone is getting 1700 a month which they can pay taxes on.

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[–] fagnig 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Lol. This explains why the proposed BI payment is so high. So they can pay the increased taxes off the bat it will cost. This high payment also suggests the swiss *government must have some serious money in the bank, that and the fact they are also considering going back to gold backed currency. They must be the only country in the world with solid fiscal foundations.

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[–] 4117325? 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Switzerland is amazing for their direct democracy model.

Even when the answer is "No", as it was for going back to the gold standard, it's incredible that they'd actually ask the question.

I wish we had more substantive direct democracy in the world.

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[–] 0x4F 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

But it'd be untenable in a country like the U.S., which has far too many competing interests and a lot of bad blood between Balkanized ethnic and racial groups. Seems the people in these tiny EU countries tend to be of homogeneous background and therefore feel kinship to their fellow citizens. Here, you've got a constant "cold civil war" that pits the blacks against the Latinos and the Koreans and everyone against whitey. Even whites are divided almost in half between your blue-state liberals and red-state conservatives. And that in and of itself is subject to further divisions, i.e. you have "liberals" who focus more on labor and economics than on nitpicky SJW issues, libertarians who are opposed to both leftist SJWism and religious imposition by evangelicals and thus aren't able to "fit" in the labels of "liberal" or "conservative," and your average-Joe moderates who tend to be apathetic about abstract things like foreign policy and race relations and only care about the bottom line for himself and his family. Direct democracy would lead to utter chaos in the United States. Not to mention we have a third of a billion cutthroats, compared to 8.2 million in tiny Switzerland. It has 200,000 fewer people than NYC alone, where 800 languages are spoken just in that tiny little corner of the nation and, thus, the world.

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[–] fagnig 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Not to mention we have a third of a billion cutthroats

Just curious. What if you had a billion? Would you even support a democracy?

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[–] 0x4F 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I wonder what they're already doling out in jizya tax to the "refugees" though...