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[–] AnmanIndustries 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

This is a terrible thing. This is the sort of thing that creates depression, ruin marriages and even suicide. Imagine doing the same boring thing, that is completely beneath you. Nothing challenges you. Your work is boring and you are not stimulating yourself. It tires your brain and that tires you physically. You come home and your kids need your attention but youre brain dead. Your wife says you never look after the house. You start to think that you are worthless because you know you are worth so much more and are just doing this monotonous garbage and its ruining you. You get depressed and feel horrible.

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[–] go1dfish 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

This trend is going to continue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU

In general, male labor is easier to automate as it is usually more focused on physical labor than mental labor, so I would expect males to be affected by automation in an outsized way.

Gonna be a wild ride.

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[–] blipblipbeep [S] 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

In general, male labor is easier to automate as it is usually more focused on physical labor than mental labor, so I would expect males to be affected by automation in an outsized way.

That's some precision hammering go1dfish mate.

I find it totally insane that there isn't more thought and regulation being applied globally to slow the onset of automation. I understand that each country wants to be the cheapest exporter by creating stuff for less. That ideal only works until people can no longer afford that stuff because their job has been replaced by automation. The fact that automation is being applied exponentially doesn't help.

I truly worry about the underlying intentions of the people pushing this outcome as they don't want to loose their power or possessions, also, if a simpleton such as myself can see that the automation model will eventually collapse in on itself, its a sure bet that they can also see this outcome. So why isn't more being done to address this inevitable disaster???

With that said. I do feel that UBI could possibly work if all automated systems are somehow regulated and taxed against a company profit so that that tax revenue can be used for public infrastructure and the peoples UBI. I'm sure there are other ideas being thrown around regarding sustainable UBI. ???

Time is running out though.

Thanks for your comment go1dfish mate.

Peace...

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[–] go1dfish 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Oh, one more thing....

I find it totally insane that there isn't more thought and regulation being applied globally to slow the onset of automation.

Milton Friedman answers this quite well:

At one of our dinners, Milton recalled traveling to an Asian country in the 1960s and visiting a worksite where a new canal was being built. He was shocked to see that, instead of modern tractors and earth movers, the workers had shovels. He asked why there were so few machines. The government bureaucrat explained: “You don’t understand. This is a jobs program.” To which Milton replied: “Oh, I thought you were trying to build a canal. If it’s jobs you want, then you should give these workers spoons, not shovels.”

Interestingly both Friedman and Hayek (pretty ultra right economists praised by AnCaps/Libertarians) advocated for a UBI of some kind, with Friedman referring to it more as a Negative Income Tax.

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[–] go1dfish 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Yeah UBI is the most common solution for the problem brought up.

It may seem completely antithetical to my /v/TaxationIsTheft mantra, but the ideas of a UBI intrigue me because I feel that if a government made a UBI a solid obligation of the government to the people, I believe it would lead to a more voluntary society.

If everyone is guaranteed enough cash to live by the government, at least they can choose to effectively boycott the government by withdrawing from the productive economy and choosing to protest.

If you're interested in UBI's I actually contributed quite a bit to /r/BasicIncome back when I was on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/BasicIncome/search?q=author%3Ago1dfish&restrict_sr=on

https://www.reddit.com/r/BasicIncome/comments/2xpg98/observation_a_living_wage_ubi_even_one_provided/

I'm especially interested in the idea of a /r/CryptoUBI though, even if such a thing was done by government: https://archive.is/LobTe

In my pipe dream world, we might even be able to do such a thing without a state:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/2v2i0l/today_i_found_rcryptoubi_for_discussion_of/

CryptoCurrency transaction volumes don't scale high enough to do this sort of thing well yet, but I think it could be possible within a decade or so.

I played around with a small reddit based UBI at /r/FairShare and /r/GetFairShare and cryptocurrency bots before the apaocalypse made me lose any faith in the underlying platform.

@puttitout you might be interested in my old reddit UBI antics, it's something I'd like to try again here once the platform is more mature, and is partly why I suggested bitcoin/crypto functionality in your 2.0 thread.

/v/BasicIncome could use more submissions btw, if you guys start submitting stuff there I'll try to as well.

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[–] the_sharpest_knife 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I've linked that video so many times. I work in automation and people sit in denial even after they're walking out the door with their box of shit from their cube. A simple phone tree/voice recognition system usually replaces 250 people per call center.

I really hope the slow majority finds a way to get by.

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[–] go1dfish 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah, it's going to be the biggest shift in society since the last industrial revolution, possibly even since agriculture.