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[–] ElementalPee 3 points 38 points (+41|-3) ago 

Someone's political beliefs should not matter when it comes to modding a subverse. Show me instances where this persons personal beliefs compromised their ability to moderate neutrally

I don't know who this poster is and I don't know about their history but just as a concept, this seems like incredibly naive thinking. A lot of people watched many subs on reddit slowly infiltrated and the culture destroyed. You can't blame them for being a bit wary. As to whether or not this person's history warrants any concern, I can't say. But a person with a strong belief system has an agenda. A person with an agenda is unlikely to moderate neutrally enough for many people's standards.

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[–] identifier1 7 points 18 points (+25|-7) ago 

You will never find someone that is unbiased. Actions speak louder than words. The difference between voat and reddit is moderation logs. Rather than linking to /u/she's moderation log, the OP decided to make baseless accusations.

There are a great many things that I disagree with but would have no problem with letting them happen if that was part of my job. There are numerous examples of this happening every day. People have the ability to separate their belief systems from their jobs. /u/she is already a moderator of /v/news, and since OP hasn't linked to any wrongdoing(when it comes to moderating) done by /u/she, I can only assume /u/she is doing a good job.

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[–] Kylan 3 points 8 points (+11|-3) ago 

Please note that the mod logs are public - meaning that any corruption or "infiltration" will be public knowledge. It's hard to press an agenda when every move you make is public.

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[–] Bkow 5 points -1 points (+4|-5) ago 

That's the thing though. From /u/she comment section, she doesn't have a strong belief system that warrants outrage like people are spreading. It seems she is a woman who knows what she wants and believes but isn't an SJW like OP suggests.

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[–] Garbageland 10 points 19 points (+29|-10) ago 

Yeah, I looked at her post and comment history too and I really don't get what the big deal is.

This is like a political smear campaign with extremely low stakes.

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[–] Confusion 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

OP is just as knee-jerky as those he fights against, but he is still right. It is good to keep balance on important neutral default subs. I request that default subs should be in the hands of 2-3 owners at all time. They are the face of Voat, so no point giving total power to one person. Like how it requires 2 turning a key to launch a nuke, the same protocol should be enacted here to prevent 1 owner nuking a verse. We saw what power hungry mods did to Reddit, let's put some protocols in place to prevent power mods being so powerful.

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[–] Ganeshaha [S] 2 points 2 points (+4|-2) ago 

I used power as a reference to the size of this subverse. The rest of your points I'm adding to address in the video <3

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[–] identifier1 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

Why the fuck would you make a video of it?

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[–] Bkow 18 points 29 points (+47|-18) ago  (edited ago)

This is how witch hunts start. First, we make posts like this. Then some insane mother fucker doxxs her. The we have an IRL dangerous situation. No bueno.

Now, we do need a mod of such a huge sub to be more on the neutral side of things. No far left or far right people. They need to be fair to everyone, not just those users who agree with their beliefs. AskVoat mods have such a huge responsibility to uphold fairness within the sub. If a mod is too SJW then any post that offends them may get deleted. Any user that offends them has the chance they will get banned since the mod was offended. Same point, if a mod is too lenient then we get shitheads like A______k spamming all over the place within consequence. The mods need to be fair. I don't think /u/she is capable of being 100% fair with everyone.

Now, lastly, /u/she is already an AskVoat mod. Why are they requesting ownership?

Edit: I spoke too soon. I reread a few pages of comments on /u/she profile and found not one piece of evidence of her being "too sjw". Now, I want to apologize to @she for speaking out of turn. I am sorry. /u/she seems to be a very decent person. Regarding the posts deleted from AskVoat, the rules clearly state that the post must have a '?' in the title. /u/she also messages the OP and lets them know why the post has been removed. This has shown her to be a good mod. Enforcing the rules of the sub without bias, as well as letting users know why their post was removed. That shows courtesy towards the users here. /u/she is a good mod. I still don't know why they want level 1 power over the others. But, that is none of my concern and irrelevant in this post.

I am now going to point out something very obvious. You can't look at a users Lowest 3 Comments and form an opinion about that person. It takes more than that. Take mine for example. My first lowest makes me look like a conspiritard. My second one I am arguing with users on /v/killallmen which makes me look, well I don't really know. My third lowest comment sounds like I'm bragging about how good I am at Voat. Those aren't me, I am so much more than that, /u/she is too.

Give /u/she at least a little faith. Let them explain why they want ownership of the sub. I truthfully don't think /u/she would wreck AskVoat. She also should NOT resign from modding AskVoat because of this drama.

Thank you and goodnight.

Second edit: I love it that I'm getting downvoated after editing my comment to apologize to @she and speaking in support of her.

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[–] BrazilianRider 2 points 16 points (+18|-2) ago 

AskVoat mods have such a huge responsibility to uphold fairness within the sub. If a mod is too SJW then any post that offends them may get deleted. Any user that offends them has the chance they will get banned since the mod was offended.

As long as they uphold fairness within the sub, I don't think their personal views matter in the slightest.

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[–] Bkow 3 points 6 points (+9|-3) ago 

That's what I was getting at. I also edited my post pretty extensively. You may have a change of opinion on my comment. Good or bad.

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[–] Bkow 3 points 1 points (+4|-3) ago 

It seems this thread is getting at least one user in a huff. @she "supporters" are all being downvoated. I brought you back from negative though.

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[–] mamwad 9 points 24 points (+33|-9) ago 

Burn the witch!

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[–] mamwad 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

... <stares blankly at normal human body>

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[–] Ganeshaha [S] 9 points 9 points (+18|-9) ago 

no, that's not my point here

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[–] mamwad 7 points 19 points (+26|-7) ago 

It was a joke. But, in all seriousness, you can be against anti-SJW-ism without being an SJW yourself. Some people like myself are already incredibly tired of the circlejerk. It is a modern boogeyman.

Basically, what you're trying to do is police voat in the same manner that "SJWs" are policing reddit. Have some self-awareness. You're engaging in keyboard activism.

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[–] KingoftheJuice 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

I firmly believe in free expression and they should be allowed to have their conversations like any nut ranting from a soapbox might. Voat has to allow for everyone to have a voice regardless of how much I might agree or disagree with what's being said.

That aside, I think that the feminist/SJW mindset is a cancer that once it takes root will ruin this place like every other site before it. Look at how riddled reddit became and look at the end result. I've commented before that I don't believe those belonging to the cult should have any power/ authority here because they have repeatedly demonstrated an incapability of rational thought or reasonable behaviour. Since they think and act like children then that's how they should be treated. I really don't want to see voat become a hugbox where every sub is censored in the name of creating safe spaces and while this isn't the most elegant solution I'm not sure what is.

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[–] KingoftheJuice 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago  (edited ago)

SRS was originally a troll/ circlejerk, if what they're saying is actually true (a first) but like anything the crazies were drawn like moths to a flame and regardless of what it was in the beginning it rapidly became a hive of SJW scum and villainy.

I've only recently logged on so I haven't read the comments from others but I can only speak for myself when I say I'd like to see voat without the downvote button. Just to see how conversations take place. I feel they'd be more civil but that's a guess. Also, as I've stated before, I FIRMLY believe in free expression and that HAS to extend to things I don't like. I wouldn't save a SJW from a burning car but I would protect their right to rant about evil "cishet" males as they burn!
It's my job as an adult to take responsibility for my behaviour and not expose myself to the things that really upset me AS WELL AS managing my emotions so I don't have a breakdown whenever I'm faced with something that bothers me.

BUT, and here is the important point, giving them the opportunity to speak and the opportunity to run the show are completely different things. Let them speak freely but controlled in a manner where it can't infect the host. You don't trust a liquored up person with multiple drunk driving convictions to get behind a wheel without making sure that they're sober. Well, I see them like that.

Again, my solution isn't very good or fully worked out, I freely admit that. But until they can show that they want to be grown ups (and every one of my experiences show otherwise) they need to be treated with kid gloves.

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[–] Locavera 10 points 10 points (+20|-10) ago 

/u/she deserves to be a mod, because calling for the expulsion, disempowerment, or demonization, of individuals who one disagrees with, is exactly the kind of sentiment that I hate in SJWs.

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[–] Ganeshaha [S] 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago 

could you perhaps rephrase that comment? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

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[–] Locavera 3 points 15 points (+18|-3) ago  (edited ago)

I'm trying to say, that demonizing people for their ideals and opinions is exactly what SJWs do. It's important to remember that, and not to turn yourself into one to fight back. Disagree, call out their bullshit, and be better. But trying to raise a witch hunt over what COULD happen is an SJW tactic, and I can't agree with that.

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[–] Ganeshaha [S] 5 points -1 points (+4|-5) ago 

Ok after rereading it, you're probably trying to be sarcastic. However you completely invalidate your own point: "individualS" "no one disagrees"

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[–] OJs_Lawyer 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

Not sure if trolling...

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[–] wolflink009 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

I was wondering what all the fuss was about with her but yes after looking she does seem a bit SJWy for my taste. I know puttitout said he was looking into this and would decide so maybe you/we should be trying to talk to him?

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[–] Resident 5 points 8 points (+13|-5) ago 

Whoa, buddy, calm down. I don't see anything too inflammatory on that profile or screenshot. Why are you so focused on this person? Have you had, or witnessed, a negative user-to-user experience with this individual?

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[–] taxation_is_slavery 1 points 4 points (+5|-1) ago 

/u/Ganeshaha is probably a /u/she alt. The way these posts work is commonly known to backfire, so this is just stroking her own ego.

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[–] Confusion 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

A lot of comments and activity on /u/Ganeshaha. I don't it's likely.

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[–] Daspoots 5 points 6 points (+11|-5) ago 

I want people like you to have mod rights. No to SJW's. We do not need a downfall.

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[–] Servohahn 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

Are we really expecting to create a platform of free speech by denying mod status to people who disagree with us?

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[–] Daspoots 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

What I am saying is because she has a SJW stance, she might retaliate against something she finds offensive. This is how we will protect ourselves

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[–] atheist101 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

But we have to be careful, SRS knows about Voat and they might try to infiltrate the big subs and become mods and then slowly change the rules over time to be in line with their ideas. They did that same shit in Reddit and now look where we are. If you take a look at the subreddit /r/offmychest, thats a pretty neutral looking subreddit at first but when you go to look at its rules and its mod list, its been hijacked by SRS and they have put their stupid rules in it. Back when /r/offmychest was created, it didnt have anything to do with SRS or the SJW's and was simply a place for people to post rants about stuff that happened in their lives. Now, every word you post in that sub is heavily moderated and if it doesnt fit in line with SRS's ideology and tone policing, its deleted.

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[–] josemon 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Free speech of for people commenting, not for giving them mod status. You won't make someone that is biased, has a political agenda or tryies to censor people that they disagree with. Mods need to be impartial. Like a judge.

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