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[–] marswithrings 0 points 75 points (+75|-0) ago  (edited ago)

we can argue all day about what feminism once was, but in this day and age - in first world countries like the US - it has clearly been overtaken by a series of professional victims trying to create the next big outrage (manslamming, manspreading, etc). in order to sustain the narrative required to support their professional victimhood they have resorted to manufacturing problems with false "statistics" that causes knee-jerk reactions and oversteering. it's setting women back and sweeping male issues under the rug.

there are still good men and women who refer to themselves as feminists. but the movement by and large has been corrupted. feminists with power more often than not fall under this description. those who say otherwise are either uninformed on what feminism has been doing as of late, or they're playing a "no true scotsman" card that personally, i don't buy

edit: accidentally a letter

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[–] Zen0 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Neo-Feminism is a disgrace; the term has lost all of its original meaning.

I, too, used to identify as a 'feminist'... I've recently switched to "Egalitarian"

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[–] WholyShit 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

I've been banned from some feminist circles for being Egalitarian.

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[–] bitsnipe 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Ninja'd, I just logged in to say this.

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[–] hdwarty 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Same here. I'm 26 now but back in high school I discovered the Riot Grrrl movement; I was really interested in the culture around zines. From then on I was a self-described third wave feminist and far-left liberal up until a couple of years ago when I realized how bad it's gotten. I just can't be down with a movement that's so hateful and controlling, especially when they try to disguise it.

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[–] id [S] 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Feminism has always had those shitty "check ur privileg" types since the 60's- arguably there's just a higher amount of them

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[–] Qi 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

tumblr feminism at its finest.

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[–] DonnerFiesta 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Yeah my unpopular opinion was going to be that, while I used to consider myself a "feminist", I no longer do.

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[–] thewonderdo 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Wow, on other sites this opinion would cause mass hysteria. I'm going to like it here.

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[–] JJEvil 3 points 33 points (+36|-3) ago 

Capitalism is a failed system and will collapse under its own weight. The number of people living in poverty worldwide is increasing and it's going to get a lot worse over the next few decades. If the "job creators" aren't actually creating jobs, what use are they?

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[–] KoKansei 1 points 14 points (+15|-1) ago 

I think you mean state/crony capitalism. What we have currently is nothing close to the capitalism that brought about the industrial revolution.

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[–] 175355? 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Capitalism has been working for fucking centuries. Pretty much every society that wasn't communist, or feudalist, was capitalist. Meanwhile, the communism took a few decades to fall apart, and I don't think anyone wants to go back to feudalism.

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[–] daftfader 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I read about a European country which made it law that the CEO may not earn more than 12x their worst paid employee(He earns in a month what they earn in a year)

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[–] larebil 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Yeah we are not too bright. We like the free market, but then again we hate people earning more than us. Somehow it's all about the CEOs, nobody ever talks about football players or other extremely well paid athletes, or even TV personalities.

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[–] i208khonsu 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Absolute capitalism fails just as hard as absolute socialism. However they are both important and powerful tools to achieving prosperity. How to apply both of them appropriately isn't a simple matter of opinion between people either. The proper application is always in fluctuation depending on various social and economic factors. There is no perfect system, if there is any failed system it's a system of ideology.

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[–] Pocketknife 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Except absolute capitalism, as in free markets, are the default state of nature. While socialism requires aggressive coercion to make work.

Futhermore, a free market allows for polycentric law, so allows for a socialist setup provided people agree to the system.

The converse cannot be said to be true.

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[–] Not_a_Miracle_Worker 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

I think reddit is a fun website full of nice people.

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[–] DavidToma 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

with terrible admins and an awful CEO. It's sad. I love Reddit, yet I hate it at the same time.

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[–] Dantastic77 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Oddly enough thats also how I feel about the WWE.

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[–] Not_a_Miracle_Worker 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

same here my friend. same here.

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[–] id [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

banned

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[–] yellowishmagenta 1 points 1 points (+2|-1) ago 

topkek

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[–] Not_a_Miracle_Worker 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

Lel

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[–] DonnerFiesta 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

MRAs really aren't that bad.

I mean, they're often whiny and bitchy and kinda mean, but they're certainly no worse than modern feminists, and yet they get the short end of the stick in regards to media representation.

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[–] Dantastic77 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago  (edited ago)

People who talk bad about mra's simply created a way to bi-partisan rights issues and divide people. Remember what Carlin said, dividing us is how they rule. Its always what makes us different, not what makes us the same.

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[–] fuckyou69 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

this is so blatantly untrue. they are men looking out for their own interests. nobody else was doing that for them before. feminism was never looking out for mens rights or interests. the 'we are for equality' bit was pretty transparent and doesnt fool people who take an objective, unemotional look at the movement. it becomes clear that if anything its mostly about destroying mens rights. to suggest they merely bi-partisanned something by creating a countermovement to something that was blatantly attacking them is beyond ignorant.

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[–] ceo-ellen-pao 3 points -3 points (+0|-3) ago 

Seem kinda rapey to me tho.

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[–] AustNerevar 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Go back to your Shadowban-Chicken, Pao.

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[–] 0xFEEDDABEBEBEEF 1 points 22 points (+23|-1) ago 

I think communism is the best sociopolitical idea humanity has had but is too stupid to actually ever implement. I am an American.

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[–] WholyShit 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

That position is obvious to anyone with a moderate understanding of economics/socioeconomics.

People with no idea think it's bad, people with a very limited idea think it's perfect, and people with a decent idea think it's theoretically good but practically bad.

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[–] flyawayhigh 1 points 5 points (+6|-1) ago  (edited ago)

You know what else is obvious to someone with an understanding of economics? Capitalism is "too stupid to actually ever implement." All of the economic ideologies are debunked. Now what do we do?

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[–] larebil 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

How can it ever be theoretically good to remove any incentive to work/create value?

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[–] Genghis_Khan 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

This is ignorant to the point of being a little funny.

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[–] TimeWaster 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I've always had the same feeling, but I indeed am too stupid to figure how it could efficiently be implemented.

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[–] SNOOKI_SNACKHOUSE 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

"Efficiently implementing" communism is how we end up with any real communist state in the last 100 years. It usually involves a lot of killing of civilians. Communism would work if everyone suddenly woke up and embraced it. It doesn't work because that is not human nature. That is also why it does work on small scales like communes where people voluntarily go to practice it and corruption, if it occurs, is very easy to root out. On a large scale, with real people of different backgrounds and interests and desires and levels of drive, you will always have people trying to outdo their neighbor and then communism fails. Finally, the people who think they can efficiently implement it have already given in to the ego that runs completely counter to a society where everyone has an equal role.

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[–] s6th 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Basically, communism means everyone helps each other out.

That's a good idea.

Shame that human greed stops it from ever becoming a thing.

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[–] Anonymice 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Basically, communism means everyone helps each other out.

But if everyone is helping me out, that dramatically decreases my motivation to help myself out.

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[–] unixfreak 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago  (edited ago)

That my country is run by a fascist dictatorship and is a ridicule of democracy, while most of the electorate are completely oblivious to it. I'm from the UK. (probably on a list now too)

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[–] Zen0 1 points 8 points (+9|-1) ago 

I'm from America; we're in the same boat.

Oh, and you were already on a list prior to your comment.

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[–] geist 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Everyone's on "the list". It's just a matter of how high up you are.

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[–] SpaceRosa 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I wouldn't go that far, but I expect more people will take that view soon. People keep talking about something Cameron apparently said recently along the lines of "You can follow the law, but it won't be enough anymore."

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[–] deadbeef 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Fun fact: Judging by your username, you were probably already on a list. Apparently, just visiting linuxjournal.com puts you on a list.

Also, I'm a Brit too, and I somewhat agree. I wouldn't go as far as fascist dictatorship, but this country is royally fucked.

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[–] iheartbakon 2 points 17 points (+19|-2) ago 

I think trannies are mentally ill gay men who want to expand their dating pool to include straight men.

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[–] SpaceRosa 4 points 12 points (+16|-4) ago 

You can think it, but it's really not how it works.

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[–] fuckyou69 3 points 8 points (+11|-3) ago 

you can think its not, but it still might be

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[–] ceo-ellen-pao 4 points 0 points (+4|-4) ago 

The real sweetness is when they mutilate their own bodies due to their illness. But hey circumcision is bad!

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[–] Broseph 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I can agree with the first part of your sentence but you lose me there at the end.

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[–] 174779? 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

I think they are mentally ill as every single time I interact or talk with one they also come off as completely psycho and irrational.

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[–] SpaceRosa 1 points -1 points (+0|-1) ago 

That reasoning is just awful.

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[–] OpinionOnEverything 1 points 16 points (+17|-1) ago 

That if any, white people are the oppressed now.

How? By pulling the racist card for no reason.

A white person fired a black on? Lousy worker?

Lousy worker? Nah! Must be racism!

The roles flipped and nobody adapted. Someone could say that it is deserved since it has been the other way around for a long time and even worse but should we really pay for the sins of our fathers?

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[–] Zen0 0 points 17 points (+17|-0) ago 

America's obsession with the racial schism between whites and every other ethnic demographic that perpetuates the problem.

We need to realize its a class issue, not a race issue

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[–] jimmyrussel 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Bingo. I think the biggest ruse that's been pulled in recent history is that addressing racism in modern society is more important than dealing with socioeconomic factors when it comes to taking people out of poverty.

They are intertwined due to the past, but too often the talk shifts to race when really it's socioeconomic. I hope one day we move to need based aid as opposed to affirmative action type remedies. Race only really comes into it when a race's culture is a component of the issue. Which it is, but again the narrative should not be driven by race itself.

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[–] Dtown 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I don't think White people are particularly oppressed in the US. However I think that minorities are often given the benefit of the doubt in corporate settings. I work in a NOC and had a female black co-worker that was fired for being incompetent and generally giving misinformation to customers because she did not understand our network. We are still in the process of defending ourselves against charges of sexism. She tried for the racism card at first but failed because we are bout 1/3 white, 1/3 black and 1/3 Indian.

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[–] jimmyrussel 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

"Minorities" in quotes for good reason. We deemed African Africans a prime candidate for the handouts. Additionally there are a large number of Hispanic initiatives for immigrants as well. Post war Korean and Vietnamese immigrants not so much, despite them being more recently involved in political turmoil at the hands of the US. Eastern European immigrants fled genocide and war but they're 'white' thus require no aid as clearly the system is stacked in their favor. Chinese immigrants despite being enslaved to build railroads across the USA don't get these benefits. For a nation of immigrants and their offspring we sure like to divide ourselves arbitrarily when it comes to helping the poor.

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[–] derf-vega 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

In countries with less racial tension, this is not really an issue.

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