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[–] PaperTiger 1 points 36 points (+37|-1) ago 

Because he has shown himself to be a troll. Of course he's going to be downvoated.

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[–] chronos 1 points 20 points (+21|-1) ago 

It seems that is the only acceptable way to deal with trolls. Downvoat and ignore.

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[–] The_True_King 0 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago 

It's the only really effective control. Troll post? Downvote and Ignore. Troll Comment? Downvote and Ignore.

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[–] escapefromredditbay 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

when has he been a troll, and not someone you just didnt like? asking for discussion and proof.

EDIT: wait, nope, hold on, this OP is talking with the same tone as the guy hes defending.

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[–] Mumberthrax 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I've seen some of the posts that user has been making. Some of them seem like decent content, and others are junk with ridiculous titles. Their comments are extremes, being caustic and rude to people who seem to agree with things that he has posted about elsewhere.

My impression as a "conspiracy theorist" is that it's an account that is intended to make people like me look foolish and extremist. We see accounts like this on reddit often enough, and yes yes I know, Poe's Law.

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[–] benis 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

I haven't been on here in a while, you have any evidence to back that up?

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[–] rdz 1 points 24 points (+25|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I just browsed through the user's post history and the downvotes seem justified based on the comments. The guy comes off as very passive aggressive, and posts many links with just awful titles and content. His loaded post about what users believe in a higher power, and then immediately belittling people who comment on the post (or posting irrelevant, content void comments that do nothing) for example

He asked for arguments but none were able to provide.

If you are interpreting that his condescending and accusative tone is asking for logical arguments, I'm inclined to believe that you are either closely related to @WeAreNotThem or are the same person using the account.

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[–] cctv 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Same I thought when I read that.

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[–] SpaceRosa 3 points 17 points (+20|-3) ago 

Why do you capitalise SHILLS? The question would be perfectly fine without the title trying to beat me over the head with capitalised buzzwords.

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[–] lofalexandria 3 points 13 points (+16|-3) ago 

I swear, the paranoia I have seen displayed on and across Voat regarding "shills" is going to become a serious issue if it is not tempered at some point.

Seriously, there are some pretty interesting systems being talked about supporting content creators which, combined with the 2/10 rule on self promotion indicates that this community is intended to be much more open and friendly towards content producers and people who are going to be promoting their work.

As long as people are adhering to the rules people need to get the fuck over this idea of shills and paranoia about marketing. I don't give a fuck at all if Microsoft makes an account named Microsoft and 2 out of every 10 posts it makes are links to new Microsoft products. As long as it is within the rules and participating within the community there is nothing wrong with this.

The Signal to Noise ratio post the other day is more important than many will admit and this is an issue that will need to be very clearly addressed one way or the other sooner rather than later.

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[–] SpaceRosa 1 points 13 points (+14|-1) ago 

Yes. And SJWs. I believe if it continues, and becomes worse, you'll have the Voat equivalent of ShitRedditSays, except it'll be SJWWatch or something, and instead of hunting people for being "offensive" they'll go after them for being "too SJW". Seems to me like there are definitely people trying to take advantage of this to stir shit up. In /v/conspiracy for example, a ten minute old account accuses some random user of being a shill with capital letters.

This attitude many people seem to have is a collective vulnerability. Makes people easier to rile up.

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[–] cctv 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Exactly, it's about noise. Trolls can have them say too as long as they don't infect the purpose of the community.

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[–] escapefromredditbay 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

maybe, but after a point the very appeal of here is that the rules and mod control have finally slackened off. and, the bad part of housing shills is that the way they try to hide under the guise of a legitimate user, they're a very shady method of shifting people.

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[–] Sinful_Casshern 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

but it's IMPORTANT

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[–] Ulluses 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

Because he's an arsehole, I saw 3 random posts in ask voat today that were just shit. So I downvoated them, I'm not a shill for doing that, it makes me a rational person.

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[–] Sinful_Casshern 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

It's almost like voating up or down is a personal choice based on opinion, and it seems moloko(probably wearenotthem) doesn't get that

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[–] Moloko [S] 7 points -1 points (+6|-7) ago 

Did the posts contradict your mentality so you got mad?

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[–] Ulluses 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

I'm not mad, but if you post shit then it gets downvoated. Doesn't make it a grand conspiracy. Hey look that guy just rubbed dog shit all over a statue of a crying duck and put it in the park for all to see, oh wait nobody likes it? There must be some sort of scheme out to attack the artist.

My mentality is pretty malleable, you want to talk about aliens, or god, or government cover ups then fine. If you want to post stupid titles alongside dumb brainwash videos then don't be surprised when people voat it down out of sheer non-interest.

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[–] AltCtrlDel 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I like you.

[–] [deleted] 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago 

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[–] Moloko [S] 3 points -2 points (+1|-3) ago 

What? Define cursory examination?

[–] [deleted] 0 points 10 points (+10|-0) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] SpaceRosa 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Maybe it's to confuse people. If some of your posts are trolling, but others are perfectly rational, some people will just take it as you being stupid or making an unpopular opinion because there's evidence of rationality.

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[–] chronos 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Wow currently at -89 comment points. Seems legit.

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[–] Flagger 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

@Atko what do you think of the possibility of auto deleting accounts that have this many downvotes. It is obvious they are just here to cause trouble.

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[–] fleetfoot 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

This post feels a little too... intentional.

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[–] kgb 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

Yeah, this is rather blatant. I'm dense as fuck and oblivious to this most of the time, but I'm 85% sure @Moloko @Got and @WeAreNotThem are run by the same person or group.

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[–] rdz 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I've been here an entire day and I've come to the same conclusion as well.

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