Archived Is/Should mass dumping of links be considered spamming a subverse, even if they are "on-topic"? (AskVoat)
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Archived Is/Should mass dumping of links be considered spamming a subverse, even if they are "on-topic"? (AskVoat)
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[–] 123_456 0 points 19 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago (edited ago)
Hello. You are throwing out some accusations here, which I feel are incorrect:
I don't care about points.
It's not spam. Spam specifically is advertisements.
I have no affiliations with any of those websites and gain no benefits from submitting them to Voat.
I only submitted those to add content to this website, which it is lacking.
I read every single one of those articles. We're not talking about a hundred articles here. There are less than 20.
What is this signal to noise business? Why would people not post because of my submissions? There are barely any submissions around here. The front page is extremely static.
Yeah, these links are on reddit, but reddit is just an aggregator. These also appear on other social bookmarking websites that exist, like digg, boingboing, stumbleupon, Facebook, Google News, etc. And these are large websites. You don't think I visit the Washington Post, or CNN on my own, that I get my stuff exclusively through one website?
Now I don't feel like posting anymore...!
[–] [deleted] 0 points 12 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago
[–] EarthGleaner 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago (edited ago)
Yes, please don't be discouraged. Right now, I feel, is a good time to do some focusing on populating the site. I think this helps to build a larger foundation for Voat. As this solidifies we can proceed with building this cathedral of beautiful, more carefully placed information.
[–] [deleted] 0 points 7 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago (edited ago)
[–] european 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
There seems to be some kind of comment limit or timer so i'd have thought there'd be one for actual submissions.
[–] noexit 0 points 6 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago
Finally somebody that understands the definition of spam. Spam tries to generate revenue. This is often called shitposting and it's up to Voaters to decide if they read it or upvoat it. If it annoys somebody they can downvoat or put in a negative comment during the discussion. Shotgun shitposting is not spam, it's often just way for somebody with limited time to take care of their posting all at once.
[–] Danbear [S] 1 point 3 points 4 points (+4|-1) ago
Well that is the newer usage of Spam yeah, but originally it was meant to be anything that is posted/said repeated quickly. Like if I went on your IRC chat and said "K" "K" "K" "K" "K" "K" "K" "K" "K" "K" "K" "K" "K" "K" over and over constantly so no one could see any other content on the screen, I would be "spamming" the chat.
That is the context that I used Spam here.
[–] Danbear [S] 2 points 1 point 3 points (+3|-2) ago
Honestly did you read all of those? Did you read ANY of those?
If you don't even read them then why should anyone else?
IMO the only thing worse than comments commenting without reading the article is an OP who is posting without even reading the article.
Yes, there is more aggregators than Reddit but just because a news story is heavily aggregated doesn't mean it belongs here, much less that it should be posted without even reading it. That makes things just one GIANT echo chamber.
Post away, but next time take the time to read the articles and leave a comment or two about the news story, what you personally think, why we should care enough to read it too, what greater implications that story might have on the world. Offer more than just a link, please offer more than just a dumped bucket of links, please for the love of god read the stuff before you dump the bucket.
[–] BrutalJones 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
I don't see that any of this is relevant. The point of Voat is to upvote good content and downvote bad content. If he posts something of poor quality, you guarantee somebody will call it out in the comments and it will be downvoted. And even that is valuable -- If something is disagreeable or of poor quality, there is valuable discussion to be had in conversing on why that is.
I don't quite following you here... How does posting links found on Reddit make Voat an "echo chamber"?
Why is this important? I don't come to Voat to read an OP's comments on a link, I come here to browse the links. And he has provided a ton of content for me to browse.
Honest question: Why does his posting activity bother you enough to start a dedicated discussion? Voat is a small community that benefits from content, and he is providing. He's not spamming as none of this benefits him personally or financially. He's posting legitimate links to things that warrant discussion. I honestly don't agree that this is adversely affecting the site in any way, which makes me question why it seems to bother you so much.