Archived Voat, What is your opinion on Marijuana use? Reasons/Stories? (AskVoat)
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Archived Voat, What is your opinion on Marijuana use? Reasons/Stories? (AskVoat)
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[–] DrRagnarok 1 point 14 points 15 points (+15|-1) ago
Some people drink a little on the weekend to relax and have a nice evening. I smoke for the same reason. I see no real difference between the two.
[–] tanzmeister 0 points 11 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago
Except after a night of heavy drinking I just want to die and after a night of heavy smoking I'm up making omelettes and getting my morning run.
[–] DrRagnarok 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
I don't even think I'd classify what I do as heavy. It's more akin to like a glass or two of wine after dinner. Just enough to take the edge off and feel comfortable in my skin.
[–] dylbobagginses [S] 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
As far as I have read it seems like it is less harmful to the human body than drinking too, I am wondering if there has been enough research to deem it as safe or if its simply a lack of knowledge about it..
[–] armday2day 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
I'm sure if you ingest in an edible, low calorie form, it would be much healthier.
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[–] brainbaobao 0 points 13 points 13 points (+13|-0) ago
Definitely pro. If someone doesn't want to use it, then don't. Treat it similarly to alcohol and tobacco. I also feel similarly regarding psychedelics.
I generally smoke a few bowls on the weekends to blow of steam from life. It also is a great tool for bonding between friends, if you find the right people. Not to mention there are countless people incarcerated for unthinkable amounts of time for nonviolent drug crimes.
[–] MysteryMeat 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
Psychedelics sound kind of awesome. I'd give them a shot if they were manufactured in a clean, consistent manner with some basic info on how potent they are.
[–] brainbaobao ago
I also wish they weren't schedule 1
[–] dylbobagginses [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I agree that it can definitely help blow off the steam. Do you think socially it is important for smokes to hang around with smokers? Like easier for them to build relationships than smokers and non-smokers?
[–] OneTrueCube 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
In my experience, smoking with someone is an almost-instant friendship. Barring if you're at like a party or something and it's all strangers.
However, I don't know how much of that is the act of smoking and how much is just personal interaction.
[–] brainbaobao ago
Important? Depends on the person. As for bond building, I do believe it I'd easier for smokers than non smokers, at least for the time being due to the stigma.
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[–] armday2day 1 point 5 points 6 points (+6|-1) ago
Anyone who smokes pot and really embraces stoner culture is still new to the drug, or never grew up and is a perpetual child. Stoner culture romanticizes smoking everyday, excessively. I did that, I lived that. I smoked for all but 9 days out of 365. It wasn't fun. It was a way for me to numb myself.
[–] whisky_cat 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
Perhaps you've heard the Bill Burr podcast?
[–] dylbobagginses [S] 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
That is how i feel too. I don't feel like anyone is getting harmed here. Would your opinion change if it turned out second hand pot smoke was as harmful or more harmful to a body than second hand tobacco use?
[–] Call_Me_Kelly 1 point 0 points 1 point (+1|-1) ago
Don't a ton of people vape, now?
[–] Arotaes_Forgehammer 0 points 5 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago
I'm fine with it as long as it doesn't interfere with my life.
[–] dylbobagginses [S] 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
Like you are fine using it as long as it doesn't interfere with your life? Or you are fine with others using it?
[–] HomerSimpson 1 point 3 points 4 points (+4|-1) ago
I am going to assume the latter.
[–] Arotaes_Forgehammer 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
The latter. I don't have any current reason to use it, but I'm fine with others using it.
[–] Hektik 2 points 4 points 6 points (+6|-2) ago
Pro: It was only outlawed to disenfranchise Negroes and Hispanics. No one gives a shit about the consumption of personal recreational cannabis unless they get paid to outlaw it.
[–] dylbobagginses [S] 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
What do you mean it was outlawed to disenfranchise Negroes and Hispanics? I feel like that could be a story I would like to hear more about.
[–] let_them_eat_slogans 0 points 4 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/14/marijuana-prohibition-racist_n_4590190.html
[–] whisky_cat 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
There's a bit more to it than that.
Marijuana was legislated against in the '30s because:
Hemp threatened the textile industry, where any marijuana grower could produce their own fabrics with the free plant.
Hemp oil threatened the oil industry, where any marijuana grower could produce oil useful for tractors and automobiles with the free plant.
Marijuana usage threatened the known conventional medicine industry.
First the US Congress (colluding with industry, and with the media publishing propaganda) reacted by passing the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937. Later the act would be interpreted as criminal law, shortly followed by the sweeping 1970 Controlled Substance Act which sadly categorized marijuana exclusively with the most dangerous substances.
The Controlled Substance Act - and things like cocaine and crack flooding urban areas - is where your argument of disenfranchising the minorities is better framed. And I'd say "disenfranchising" is a hell of a euphemism.
[–] kurtznnj 1 point 4 points 5 points (+5|-1) ago (edited ago)
I'm ambivalent and as a libertarian believe people should be able to smoke without fear of being locked in a cage. But I've seen it destroy otherwise very capable and smart people. The smartest person I ever knew was a chronic weed smoker and he/she did not live to his/her potential.
[–] dylbobagginses [S] 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago
What do you mean it destroyed them? Like did they stop trying as hard to accomplish things, or because they got arrested for it?
[–] kurtznnj 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Symptoms resembling schizophrenia, paranoia, and related mental illness. I think it took the "drive" out of them too.
[–] whisky_cat 0 points 2 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago (edited ago)
In my case, if I had dodged weed in my life, I would've likely been a smart Computer Science grad student employable right out of college. Perhaps I wouldn't have even needed college.
Well I smoked a ton of weed in high school and college - and while I did OK entering the labor force and getting hired for good jobs, the weed thing was definitely a set back.
If I learned programming in high school and/or college - instead of about 4 years after - I would have advanced any success I've had in life a great deal. So there's that.
But. I don't really regret it. Many fun years, great friendships, epic stories to remember. Then I got my shit together and pursued far more challenging things.
[–] whisky_cat 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
I'm gonna double-up on replies here. Another viewpoint I have. I was also a marijuana dealer for most of the time I was in high school and college. Besides not having to pay for weed and making money, in the course I introduced many first-timers to marijuana. Many times, I was their for the first time they got high and observed the experiences... at least of dozen of them, probably more.
At least 3 out of 4 of those sessions generally went smooth. For some it was an instant hit. For some they became tired or paranoid, but got home safely, marijuana didn't catch on for some of those people, and others it just took more exploration.
That last 1 out of 4 sessions that didn't go smooth. I have some stories.
One guy, we honestly over-pressured when he was ultimately not wanting - or ready - to try marijuana. He was in our car, and after some time when we came to a stop he actually opened the car door and ran home. To be honest, I guess he parents taught him well. On the other hand, years later I randomly did cocaine with his brother at a general house party.
One guy became socially awkward while very high, and made some dumb comments towards the dealer I purchased from. The dealer didn't take it well, and threatened to fight him and pushed him. The anxiety and panic that guy experienced led him to screaming "I'm Sorry" repeatedly, until he got up and hurried home (which was across the street from said dealers house). He smoked again but scarcely.
One guy, who we believed was a chronic liar, broke down while we were standing around high trying to explain why we didn't believe his stories. He broke down and admitted he was a chronic liar, and we already knew he was lying to pretty much everyone ever about his life. We never did learn what he was covering up or how his life really was. I don't think he smoked again.
I've seen people get emotional and cry, but I've seen that with alcohol and other drugs plenty of times.
I'm probably missing other weird ones, but it was an edge case when things got out of hand on weed alone. Throw in other drugs & alcohol and the stories are endless.
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[–] dylbobagginses [S] 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Hahah fucking Philipe, doesn't he realize that's his fucking JOB?? Jeesh. I always believe in peoples freedoms, and less regulations about what we can legally do. I do suppose I love laws that protects citizens safety though.
[–] Kleyno 2 points 3 points 5 points (+5|-2) ago
You want to smoke that green recreationally, that is your business. But don't be coming up to me trying to sell it as the miracle cure for all the world's ills, because I will just laugh at you and walk the other way.
It's a drug and it is a habit, just like smoking for the nicotine. Don't try to sell it as something more than it is. Also, fuck you if you smoke that skunk shit.
Legitimate medical uses for that plant, now there is something I'd be interested in discussing.
[–] tanzmeister 1 point 4 points 5 points (+5|-1) ago
You shouldn't knock it's power as a helpful substance until you try it. You will understand.
[–] thatrepublicanguy 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Amen, there ain't nothing to gain from smoking drugs. It kills brain cells, people get addicted and start stealing from people to get their fix, it hurts children, parents would just get high and forget about their kids, it needs to stay illegal and put people in prison for a long time for using it. The system has worked fine for that, why change it.
[–] Black-Hippy ago
I don't know if youre trolling or just plain stupid. Putting people in prison over marijuana is one of the stupidest things to do or support.
[–] chrimata 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
Pretty negative attitude it seems. Did something bad happen to you?
[–] dylbobagginses [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
So it sounds like you are saying it is someones business and you don't care in the first part, but saying 'fuck you if you smoke that skunk shit' in the second part. Would you equate it with being on par with tobacco use?