There are two parts to this question. One on the online community, one in the real life observations.
Online:
This is a problem I've been having with the Voat community. Everyone seems so passionate about arbitrary things, and yet, I see hardly anything being done to create, or amend the issues. We're not technically a community; in fact, it's a strange crossroads of communities that happen to all be residing in the same space.
I got here three months (well lurking, I think my profile says 1) ago. When I joined, I felt like I found home. People would argue with each other, reach a compromise, all without downvoating. I met some great friends, all of us passionate about writing. And now, a good majority of them have left due to the culture change.
Instead of discussion, I find more and more "Fuck you faggot you SJW cocksucker" sort of deals. They didn't like this. They left. I took a hiatus for awhile. But I notice more and more this mindset of witchhunting, hive minded anger, without any solution but to ban users (Not in Particular @She but also many, many others). I feel like we could be better at open discussion, without the name-calling. It weakens arguments --- granted, I've seen several good arguments going on, but it all revolves around downvoats instead of null debate.
In Real Life:
More and more, people get angry. They're angry about everything. And They offer no solutions, not feasible ones anyway. I'm pretty laid back. I try to not get angry these days, though sometimes something gets under my skin, but everyone seems to make it a black and white issues (sometimes literally) without ever seeing the facts.
My question to you, voat, is that.....
How do we take our passion and make it into something constructive? How do we regain control, and instead of only being angry and passionate, we become motivated and passionate?
I apologize for rambling. I'm getting fed up with anger with no constructive direction.
EDIT: This discussion is amazing! I haven't read through everything yet, but I'm so happy you all are really getting into this! thanks!
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[–] cajunsunrise 0 points 3 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago
I don't know exactly what the solution is, but I think it happens because people are, well, less thoughtful.
I saw a post on FPH today (there was a FPH post that was in the to 5 most viewed posts on Voat today, so I checked it out even though I've blocked the subverse) that was a comic of stick figures about how a group of girls agreed with this one girl who wouldn't date a dude because he was shorter than her, but when a guy said to a girl that he wouldn't date her because she was fat, the girls were mad at him. The comic meant to show a double standard of objectification and how if one is acceptable, then both cases should be. But its premises, I think, were wrong. Just because one of those cases is socially acceptable, sortof, doesn't mean that it should be, or that it should make the case for FPH stronger. To me, it means they're both wrong. (I'm dating a dude that's shorter than me, so y'all can fuck off if you think I'm begin a hypocrite)
However, I can't say that on FPH, because the subverse would specifically BAN me from sympathizing with any "Fatty". So, it becomes a bit of a self-perpetuating circle, where hate happens, and it can't be intellectually discussed because you would get banned (ie: censored? oh wait...isn't that supposed to be something Voat is against?), and so more hate happens.
I don't really know how to stop the cycle when users will get banned for trying.
This idea can be extrapolated to other scenarios where users are condemned as SJW. Instead of actually disagreeing with SJW arguments in logical ways, being calleda SJW and downvoated is enough. And so the discussion stops and so does the flow of logic and ideas.
Anyways, probably an unpopular opinion, but there's my two cents.
[–] OllieQueen [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Good job for vocalizing it, man or woman!