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[–] thingsarefun 23 points 107 points (+130|-23) ago 

Voat does not give an automatic benefit of the doubt to liberals, democrats and corporations as reddit and the mass media do.

Left and Right issues are based on the merits of the story here.

After a few years of having gay / sjw / multiculturalism and other "left" issues rammed down our throats, most (and even many who hold such values) are tired of the obvious bias found on reddit and the media in general.

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[–] helmetbox 9 points 86 points (+95|-9) ago 

Left and Right issues are based on the merits of the story here.

Lol ya fucking right. The front page has been flooded with bullshit sources pushing a political agenda. It's disgraceful and frightening to realize that some people take these posts at face value. It's naiive to think voat is not susceptible to the same manipulation as everything else.

My philosophy is - question everything. Never assume someone is trustworthy unless they give you a source and an explanation for why that source should be trusted. Otherwise, trust what you read at your own risk.

“Think deeply about things. Don’t just go along because that’s the way things are or that’s what your friends say. Consider the effects, consider the alternatives, but most importantly, just think.”

― Aaron Swartz

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[–] Fambida 6 points 17 points (+23|-6) ago 

Um, ofc bullshit floods through here, but it's a different batch of bullshit from reddit's shit. For anyone capable of detecting and analyzing biases in sources, Voat is a refreshing switch from Reddit, because biases are bit more honest here. They still exist, and are everywhere, but they are more straightforward and less astroturfy. Maybe our shills are just less talented, but either way it's a nice change.

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[–] Sylos 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

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[–] SpaceRosa 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

It would help if people read the article too. Just the other day was an article titled something like "Target to remove gender" and people were doing the typical outrage things, though fortunately it didn't go up too high, because then there would have been more. In reality, what they were removing gender labels from was toys and bedding. No big deal.

The problem with trying to read news from website like this is it's subject to people's attitudes and agendas. What you end up seeing the most is a reflection of the general attitudes. So you end up with deliberately picked stories to feed people's outrage.

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[–] BraneS2 2 points 0 points (+2|-2) ago 

“Think deeply about things. Don’t just go along because that’s the way things are or that’s what your friends say. Consider the effects, consider the alternatives, but most importantly, just think.”

Quoting Aaron???
Now you're just getting me upset. I am only sorry I could only upvoat you once.

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[–] thouliha 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

Since when do liberals love corporations?

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[–] AggiePotato 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Since Citizens United

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[–] johnr754 3 points 0 points (+3|-3) ago 

Uh, have you been on reddit in a while? A large amount of redditors are as anticorporate as are Voaters. Hell, subreddits like technology, politics, lostgeneration and worldnews are incredibly anticorporate.

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[–] Say_What 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

They just think they are. When it's Chipotle, or Google self driving cars, or Elon Musk Tesla stuff, they slather on the lip gloss and the smoochfest is on.

It's easy to hate on a company that makes pesticides or something less obviously beneficial. These people become decidedly less principled and more wishy washy when the product is cool or tasty.

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[–] joethebob 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

The mirror image of one type of bias is not a lack of bias, just an inverted version. Unsupported opinionated assertions are even more common and more popular now than just a few months ago.

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[–] absurdlyobfuscated 3 points 45 points (+48|-3) ago 

It's not left and right so much as it is authoritarian versus liberty. The audience here tends to be much more libertarian-minded (little 'l') than other parts of the internet, especially reddit. I think an anti-censorship, anti-mod (that is, authority) mentality is what drove a lot of people over here. So a lot of us share that even with plenty of other types coming for all sorts of other reasons.

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[–] RenagadeGam3r 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

As well as the media shilling of allowing the government to spy on us without directly saying it.

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[–] DingleMyCringle 4 points 0 points (+4|-4) ago 

Whats funny is that liberal ideals for the last several hundred years have been largely good in the western world. Things like the abolishment of slavery, women's rights, etc.

But now that those "radical" ideals are mainstream society has over corrected. I think we just need a decade or two for people to realize that groups of people don't need special rights and for things to balance out. Will we get past the hyper sensitivity? Who knows.

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[–] KinkRaven 2 points 1 points (+3|-2) ago 

Classic liberalism is what you are referring to.

Voat appears to be centerist currently from my perspective.

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[–] Surfing_Wookiee 2 points 40 points (+42|-2) ago 

Perhaps. Voat seems to be a place where the actions and motives of the government are questioned more than Reddit, so I see it as a good thing, actually

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[–] mamwad 2 points 7 points (+9|-2) ago 

The whole left = big government, right = small government canard is a bit old and tired. Both the left and the right have authoritarian and libertarian wings.

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[–] Murphdog 6 points 25 points (+31|-6) ago 

What about everything with Bernie Sanders all over /v/politics

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[–] Oknatora 29 points 3 points (+32|-29) ago 

To be honest, I was going to vote for Bernie Sanders. But now, I'm really thinking Trump.

I'm carrying more about the economy than I am in social rights. Eventually social rights will be corrected, but the economy is another beast in it's own.

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[–] DoctorShitlord_MD 3 points 20 points (+23|-3) ago 

That's probably as big a flip-flop as can be said. Can you explain more why you were going to vote for Sanders, and why you're considering Trump now? I'm just really curious to know.

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[–] 3226 2 points 8 points (+10|-2) ago 

How is a guy who managed to fail at multiple businesses a better bet for the economy?

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[–] 1820243? 6 points 5 points (+11|-6) ago 

[The point]

[You]

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[–] evdarr 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

It seems so, but then again a lot of the people on here came to voat because they were not happy with reddit. It just makes sense that a lot of the people who had a problem with the reddit mainstream would be very vocal here.

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[–] tyr-56 1 points 7 points (+8|-1) ago 

And even if they were vocal on reddit they were usually at the bottom of any comment section thanks to all the disagree downvotes

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[–] causuistry 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

https://voat.co/v/announcements/comments/103376

Apparently voat was mentioned in a breitbart article in May as well. If people came here from that, it would push voat to the right.

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[–] CthulhuFerrigno 3 points 3 points (+6|-3) ago 

And conversely the loudest of the leftest are still busy patting themselves on the back over at SRS/D.

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[–] HilariousReference 3 points 15 points (+18|-3) ago 

Reddit is too big to make any over-sweeping statement about the entire site but I agree that the people who moderate the main subs promote a certain viewpoint

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[–] Exuberant_Murica 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Great answer! Cant really generalize for the most part

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[–] KinkRaven 2 points 4 points (+6|-2) ago 

Yes you can. It's called culture and Reddit has a clear culture that leans heavily to the left.

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[–] LemonRose 1 points 9 points (+10|-1) ago 

Yes. It definitely is, but that may change over time as the population grows.

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[–] Lootaluck 4 points 8 points (+12|-4) ago  (edited ago)

I've been here longer than most, 5 months (place was a ghost town in February)

Voats growth has almost been entirely at the expense of reddit

No one should be surprised that the denizens of /r/coontown and /r/fatpeoplehate have a more conservative bent

Additionally, RW viewpoints on reddit were routinely outside the majority by a large margin, again, it shouldn't be surprising that they would seek out a community more friendly to their perspective...which for the time being is voat

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[–] thouliha 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

Another thing I've noticed is the amount of woman hate here compared to other sites.

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[–] Lootaluck 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I bow to you sir as the senior voater!

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