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[–] gramman74 3 points 51 points (+54|-3) ago 

I think stepping down would be a nice start

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[–] Rpxtoreador 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Aye !

[–] [deleted] 1 points 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

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[–] Konekko 1 points 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Wow people are fucking jerks.

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[–] FPHrefugee 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

that's as a mod of a different sub, I think they were talking about this one

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[–] JohnQCitizen 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

At this point, I just want her to step down just so this drama would stop.

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[–] aoeu 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

But then again, wouldn't that encourage future drama of the same kind because that one time people were angry at someone drama helped, so why not try drama again?

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[–] 1759504 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

What a feeble and desperate attempt to maintain control.

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[–] anustart2015 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

This kind of perspective allows things to happen because nobody steps in.

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[–] wolflink009 6 points 19 points (+25|-6) ago  (edited ago)

I don't like her viewpoints at all, in fact I find them horribly annoying. Can anyone actually give examples of censorship though? I know dissenting threads have been removed but only those breaking a rule right?

As much as people are screaming and saying look at how much stupid (in our eyes) shit she says, is that really a reason for someone to step down? I don't really care either way and honestly would just prefer her to leave but it should be for the right reasons imo.

Edit: I'm fine with being wrong can someone give me an example instead of downvoating?

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[–] normal_dude 2 points 23 points (+25|-2) ago  (edited ago)

See for yourself https://voat.co/v/askvoat/modlog/deleted

Her viewpoints on their own don't bother me, but she's only been here two months and is already trying to take control of one of the biggest subverses https://voat.co/v/subverserequest/comments/330770 Combine the new user power grabbing and certain ideologies and it looks a lot like the cabal that took over reddit.

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[–] wolflink009 3 points 26 points (+29|-3) ago  (edited ago)

I'm conflicted because I hate everything SJW but it feels like we are stooping to their level by acting out of emotion. I have no doubts it would be the best thing for her to resign but forcing people out of modship when they aren't really censoring is a scary precedent that's all. This whole situation sucks.

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[–] Calorie-Kin 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

I see nothing there that could be censorship. She's removing posts that call to block the sub, and other non-questions.

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[–] SpaceRosa 9 points -2 points (+7|-9) ago 

Are you trying to impose guilt b association? I have seen very many people trying to suggest She must be guilty of something because of her strict enforcement of the stupid no question mark rule, and because of her views.

That's bollocks.

A rule is a rule, and moderators are supposed to enforce them. Of course, now Atko has decided they can bend them, so it's a different story. But at the time, that was the way it was. And as for her views? So what if they look like the supposed cabal that took over Reddit? That doesn't mean anything. A lot of Muslims share a few of the views of the people who blow themselves up, do you get paranoid about them too?

As far as I've seen, the claims that She's moderation is corrupt are just complaints about being to the very letter about the rules, and witchhunting her because her views are "too SJW".

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[–] d_0o_d 3 points 8 points (+11|-3) ago 

Once again, you get downvoted because someone disagreed with you... sigh.

Anyways, I feel the same. This just feels like the community knowing it has the power and needs to abuse it to remove people. How about we have an actual discussion, where we can ask about changing her behaviour in a way that satisfies the community?

She seems to care about the sub, so I think that sounds reasonable.

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[–] wolflink009 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

I agree. Voat has gotten to the size where it's harder to have genuine discussions it seems. In the end the decision rests on Atko and Puttitout. I'm sure theyve seen both sides of this so we will see what happens.

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[–] Kleyno 3 points 14 points (+17|-3) ago 

Well, it would certainly get @Atko to reconsider the removal as a default sub, but if we are being honest, is that really the best way to fix this problem?

I don't know, I am just asking, because this has all just been like woosh to me, this morning. All went by so fast.

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[–] FitMachoNaziAtheist 1 points 11 points (+12|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Went back to reddit, voat is no different.

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[–] Stoic [M] 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

I'm back in damage-control mode. I became inactive 20 days ago after facing a backlash for the stuff I had put into the sidebar, which included the removal of the question mark as a rule, a link to the /v/disagreebutton at the bottom of the sidebar and a guideline to promote intelligent discussion. I fixed the sidebar.

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[–] TopShelfPrivilege 2 points 6 points (+8|-2) ago 

The worst part is, Shiny was supporting she in taking over this subverse. The whole team needs replaced.

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[–] Turnip_Time 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago  (edited ago)

We make a new sub with blackjack and hookers and let her keep this place.

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[–] Kleyno 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Can we have robots? Not that I'm in anyway implying I'm a robosexual, but I am, perhaps robocurious...

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[–] Wonderboy 2 points 9 points (+11|-2) ago 

To be perfectly honest the fact she hasn't stepped down shows how little she actually cares about the sub. If she stepped down the controversy would completely cease and she could still contribute and gain a rep back as being a good contributor to the community. Clinging to power never works out well and shows that this is nothing more than another mod on a power trip.

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[–] escapefromredditbay 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

well, she just got askreddit removed as a default sub, so...

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[–] escapefromredditbay 0 points 14 points (+14|-0) ago 

...fuckdamnit. >_<

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[–] chubnubbin 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Good luck getting her to step down.

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[–] repoman 2 points 3 points (+5|-2) ago 

Clearly if she cared about the well-being of the sub, she would voluntarily step down and endeavor to rebuild trust before asking to be reinstated as a mod.

The longer she goes without stepping down after drawing so much ire from the users (regardless of whether she feels it is deserved), the more it proves the argument that she is on a power trip and has no interest in the interests of the community.

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