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[–] RamboCommando 3 points 176 points (+179|-3) ago 

But here we can still make a change.

Nobody on Reddit really gives a shit what we think... here, we're fighting the problem before it really gets a chance to start.

if this was Reddit, we would have all been banned from AskVoat hours and hours ago.

Voat is new, we get to make it what we want... the'll be some bumps in the road to establish the type of community we want to build here.

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[–] l23r 6 points 58 points (+64|-6) ago 

/u/she probably wishes /u/she could ban everyone.

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[–] NoTears4Fatties 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

This is a set-up trolling by SJW's from reddit btw

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[–] Kookus_ 9 points -5 points (+4|-9) ago 

keyboard warriors censor dissent via downvoat and mods censor dissent via banning/deleting posts.

you can't complain about a system that you rely on to exist.

the only way to expose both types of cowards is via PUBLIC SCRUTINY.

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[–] Kookus_ 4 points 37 points (+41|-4) ago 

you can't change a broken system when you rely on said broken system.

we've already shown the fallacy of using imaginary internet points and how keyboard warriors jerk off to their karma count and downvoat anything that causes them butthurt. this system is flawed and relies on mere popularity of opinion vs actual profoundness of thought.

until we remove this faggot karma system, we'll forever live in a world where insecure keyboard jockeys desperately try to win the validation of strangers over the internet.

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[–] Zekethephoenix 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

So how do we keep interesting things on the front page and troll posts off without upvoats/downvoats? Would we instead just have upvoats and don't record them in any visible way?

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[–] newoldwave 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago  (edited ago)

(you can't change a broken system when you rely on said broken system.)

Hey, kinda like American politics.

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[–] munk_e_man 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If you want that it already exists on 4chan. Votes are useful for getting momentum on quality posts and identifying users who are shitposting/trolling instead of offering proper content.

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[–] coolico 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Maybe if the admins made it possible to permanently alter the subverse style it would work if you wanted to.

Reddit makes it possible to remove the downvoat button, but you have the option to view the subreddit with it's original style and still downvoat a comment. Perhaps if we could alter this and not make it possible to revert this changes by going to the original style we could let the mods decide whether they want to:

  • Remove downvoat (and avoid people to try to remove arguments they disagree),
  • Remove the number of upvoats and downvoats comments have on threads
  • Or even ban voating at all (4chan style).

It would be great if mods had this power and it would influence the users to subscribe to a subverse or not, if you want to remove karma whores or people that can't handle discussion.

This way we could make everyone happy with the system.

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[–] ItsThatCanadian 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

exactly!

Nip the problem now so the future of Voat can sustain itself with its users and not its moderators. When the weak become powerful; it generally spells disaster.

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[–] thouliha 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

We need democratic moderation. Badly.