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[–] HowAboutShutUp 3 points 17 points (+20|-3) ago 

I think the main issue is the mod in question appears to subscribe to the same ideology that turned reddit into a censorious shithole. To be fair, reddit was a shithole in various ways basically from the start, but people could still have disagreements without it turning into an orgy of censorship and harassment by a select group that appears to operate with carte blanche. Additionally, it was possible to avoid crap you didn't wanna see, but moderation by hardline ideologues gradually bled into huge swathes of what should have been innocuous parts of reddit. Naturally people are going to be gun-shy of that, because what assurance do they have that someone isn't going to moderate by the same ideological viewpoints that led us here to begin with? I think if there were a way to institute some check and balance sort of mechanism on rogue moderating, there'd probably be less of an uproar.

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[–] Sadistic_Bastard 3 points 10 points (+13|-3) ago 

Yes, I understand that, but does she not has the right to hold on to her beliefs and express them? That is after all what Voat is supposed to be about. She still gets downvoted and negative comments, but (as far as I know) she hasn't abused her powers as moderator. She has the freedom of speech to voice her opinions, however radical they may be, same as any other user on Voat, but when she crosses the line by actively censoring users and deleting comments, then we have a problem.

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[–] HowAboutShutUp 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I agree. The main concern for me is, what do we do if that becomes an issue? At the current time, there's not really anything end users can do, and if Voat grows, it will eventually become a problem that Atko and PuttItOut simply won't be able to deal with due to magnitude. So I think there's a need to consider ways to deal with moderation that stops being fair and reasonable before that possibility comes true.

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[–] Pepper-theDoctor 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Freedom to express, not freedom to dominate. She has already censored askvoat

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[–] Koot 3 points -1 points (+2|-3) ago 

Ever heard of preventative measures? The whole points of this is to NOT ALLOW those types to establish themselves here and spread like cancer, because trust me, once they gain a proper foothold their attitude changes from "ohh i just think this but it doesn't mean i'm gonna ban those who don't" to "my brigade friends are around here, you better not talk back or the deletes will fly".

It's EXACTLY how it happened on reddit, seemingly docile sjw users turning into pieces of shit overnight once they garner enough "merit" on the site.

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[–] oaken 9 points 7 points (+16|-9) ago 

It doesn't matter that she has similar views to those on reddit. She is entitled to them. As long as she doesn't let those views affect her moderation, there is nothing to talk about here. And so far, I have seen 0 proof of her doing so in this thread.

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[–] SuperConductiveRabbi 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

This is why /v/askvoat/modlog/deleted is so important. So that you can prove things like this.

For example, she deleted this: https://voat.co/v/AskVoat/comments/401467 (screenshot as an archive (warning, large))

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[–] HowAboutShutUp 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Since all 3 of you guys posted very similar things, I'm going to copy/paste my response to Satanic_Bastard for the sake of simplicity, hope you don't mind:

I agree. The main concern for me is, what do we do if that becomes an issue? At the current time, there's not really anything end users can do, and if Voat grows, it will eventually become a problem that Atko and PuttItOut simply won't be able to deal with due to magnitude. So I think there's a need to consider ways to deal with moderation that stops being fair and reasonable before that possibility comes true.

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[–] ialreadyhaveaccount 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Well said!

[–] [deleted] 8 points 1 points (+9|-8) ago 

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[–] TimberWolfAlpha 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

And people constantly meta-whining about everything that happens here too.