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[–] La_Pistola 6 points 95 points (+101|-6) ago 

NO. I still find myself dropping by reddit from time to time because content and comments get stale much quicker over here. The more voices we have over here the better.

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[–] things_will_be_fine 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

I think there are lots of bots on reddit. Just let many accounts post random copy-paste comments to the funny subreddit and soon you got yourself an army of social media advertising accounts. Or people are really that monotonous, I don't know.

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[–] ivdok 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

"Instant Regret" recipe: 1. Go to any major and popular site with comments enabled, be it YouTube, XDA or Ars Technica. 2. Read article/watch clip/etc. 3. Like its content. 4. Lurk into the comments to see more curious things. 5. See so many bad comments you wanna puke. 6. Try to tell somebody on the internet that he's wrong. 7. Get rekt by a 12-year old jumphacker with bazillions of followers and e-penis longer that Burj Khalifa.

Pretty much sums up every mainstream community.

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[–] Surfing_Wookiee 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Yep, the comments on Reddit are the same, tired, copy-pasted jokes and memes that don't contribute anything of significance, and worse than that, the circlejerk actively resists people adding relevant commentary.

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[–] BrownMoses 4 points 18 points (+22|-4) ago  (edited ago)

The more voices we have over here the better.

No.

Quality over Quantity.

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[–] FlousHasheem 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

It depends who is talking. If you can't emotionally handle text on a screen, please don't come here. Otherwise, all welcome...

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[–] dvzet 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Would you rather have small subverses with 1 new submission every 7 days or 7 new posts every day?

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[–] PM_YOUR_NAUGHTY_BITS 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

There's a bare minimum quantity requirement though. I find myself checking voat throughout the work day and there are no new topics worth reading as the content just doesn't update that often. Reddit is constantly updating and even if the quality can be lower that has it's appeal too.

Of course most people don't waste as much time on these sites as I do during work days.

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[–] Marquistador 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Agreed. I think adding more views will be more thought provoking. I just hope it can stay civil. I've found being able to block subs yourself makes it easier to avoid riff raff you don't want to deal with.

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[–] FlousHasheem 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Especially since much of the content mirrors reddit - I much prefer the comment management here, but I like to be able to load pages of them, too.

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[–] Absolem 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

So true. The quality of the discussion here is way higher.

See, the problem with having a huge user base is the Circlejerk Effect. When there are so many users, and every post is exposed to so many people, only agreeable, circlejerky comments and submissions are even visible. Everything that might lead to an interesting discussion, one where there's actually some sort of conflict of opinion, is generally totally buried.

I got used to it, but seeing the juxt apposition of Voat, I just... totally lost interest in the other place, in favor of spending my time actually discussing interesting things here. That's what I enjoyed doing in the first place, and Voat is better medium for it.

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[–] ParadigmShift 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

instead circlejerking asshats who don't contribute to the discussion.

Have you been to voat? It isn't a perfect utopia.

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[–] clonex10100 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Agreed

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[–] RamenJunkie 1 points 36 points (+37|-1) ago 

I will be the contrarian and say no.

Being too small encourages a massive circle jerk over ideas and a swelled ego that thinks even the most obscure idea is being helped because a handful of people on a niche website are supporting it.

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[–] carb0n 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

In my opinion:

We need more people, but we need the right ones. We need content creators, we need the tech-crowd and we need level headed persons who are able to discuss their views.

What I don't want is the facebook crowd.

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[–] thephantompoop 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

You mean you want people who can actually absorb and process information for themselves? Preposterous

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[–] der-sert 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The issue is that content creators, unless they start on Voat, are not going to just leave the larger sites where the potential for more views are. Although against my own point, there could be a more dedicated following here than elsewhere.

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[–] Lusp 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I like when people have different ideas, even the obscure ones. It makes you ask more questions, begin discussions and think about other solutions. You can't create a thought process if a opinion or popular idea is creating your view on something and overshadows everything else.

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[–] NeroMetallizzato 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

It's already happening. Every time I browse the front page, most of the things I see are "cops this, cops that", Hillary Clinton, Israel, SJW-related stuff, ideologies, etc.

I'm not against any of those things, nor am I denying all the above issues, but come on... it's getting old already. There has to be something else we can also talk about for a change.

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[–] weezkitty 1 points 29 points (+30|-1) ago 

No. All the people are concentrated in a few large subs and all the small ones are dead. That means people still have to go to Reddit to see stuff for uncommon interests

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[–] Tsugumori 1 points 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

I don't actually mind that. The SJW's, shills, and circlekerkers aren't really messing up, say tfts or subs for specific games. I wouldn't mind more people in v/lgbt, though.

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[–] SpaceRosa 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Well, it is a subverse designed for a minority, so slow growth is to be expected. What annoys me is the fact that for some reason it seems like everything there has been downvoted.

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[–] Al_Rubyx 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Ohhhh I get it now. I've been wondering why so many racist things are upvoted recently.

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[–] CowboyRob 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

/v/niggers has over 2K users. I know because I stumbled upon and blocked it today. /v/nfl has 3700. The wackjobs ratio on voat is too damn high right now. They need to be diluted so they can go back to their rightful place on the fringe of society.

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[–] pipedemon 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

I am annoyed with how the front page is showing racist stuff in a significant way now.

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[–] gurlat 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

If they genuinely wanted voat to grow, and reddit to go down, they'd voluntarily remove themselves from v/all they way fph did.

Right now they're flooding voat with posts, making it unwise to use voat at work or in public, and generally giving voat a negative public image. They're doing a better job of trashing Voat than the SJWs could ever hope to achieve.

Can anyone explain how a sub with barely 2k users is flooding v/all when much larger subs rarely show up?

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Is there anyone besides me that doesn't block anything?

I like seeing what's popular, but I would still like to have some posts specially colored when they're from certain subs.

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[–] kevinstonge 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

my original plan was not to block anything because maybe something in fph would actually be funny and I'd want to see it ... but that lasted about a week. /all was absolutely saturated with "DAE think fat people are fat?"

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[–] wackwack 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

What, like some sort of segregation? They'd probably like it.

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[–] WarNeverChanges 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Small communities definitely have their charm, and this is no exception. There's a special solidarity among members of a small community, a well knit closeness. We treat each other better, there's fewer internet points to go around, so you see more quality posts and fewer karma grabs. It's good. It's new. It's special.

So more people want in.

I don't want this place to be reddit 2.0. I like the actual open discussion, I like the fact I get upset and disagree with things on the front page. I like having to think.

But the decision isn't up to me or you, or even Atko. It's up to all of us to keep this place a place where people can hold unpopular opinions regardless of how much other people disagree with them. It's up to us to keep this a place where critical thought is encouraged.

But the more members we garner, the harder it will be. My suggestion is to enjoy the small community while it lasts, and be an early adopter of new Internet communities.

Edit: spelling

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[–] lordoftheshadows 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

I'm going to say no. The smaller subverses that I am a part of were fine on reddit (mostly) but here they have fewer people. Also, I find it hard to participate in political discussion here (reddit too but I have higher expectations for voat) because people seem are very aggressive in shooting down others ideas if they disagree with them. Also, we need to drown out the manhood101 bullshit. They've been bothering me and maybe they could, you know, go the fuck away.

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[–] Son_Of_Hate 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Agreed. I miss the constant stream of content, but hopefully reddit will stay up to contain the karma-whores and let us talk in peace. I'm not optimistic about that, since I can already see the hivemind at play here. It seems to be reactionary and should die down, but I still don't like it.

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[–] TheodoreKent [S] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Just curious, how do you see the Hivemind starting to take hold over here?

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[–] Son_Of_Hate 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

Just the general "everybody is a shill, we're the righteous rebels" attitude in news and politics, as well the "SJWs are the devil" mentality. It may be correct, and it's a welcome break from these topics being censored and the users walking on eggshells, but the constant slant keeps me worried. Then again, maybe I'm just browsing the wrong subs.

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[–] Vespera 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

It already has. People have been posting the same topics on a daily basis for weeks.

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