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[–] TheKillerRabbit 2 points 128 points (+130|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Honestly, a benevolent dictatorship is probably the best form of government. The ruler makes the decisions based on what is best for the country and nobody else can interfere for any selfish reasons.

The problem lies in finding a selfless dictator.

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[–] Reow 0 points 21 points (+21|-0) ago 

I think the real problem is that just because a dictator is good natured, doesn't mean they have the intelligence to make the correct decisions, especially when hard choices need to be made.

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[–] EnderESXC 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

You would need a dynasty of selfless dictators, eventually the immortal selfless dictator would be corrupted with time. Basically, it's a "either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain" scenario and if the dictator lives forever, the outcome of becoming the villain becomes 'when' instead of the 'if' of a mortal dictator.

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[–] Beers 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Hey, computers are immortal, maybe make a world dictator AI that has total control forever and ever?

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[–] RaiFighter 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

So... Helios, then?

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[–] Nationalist 1 points 19 points (+20|-1) ago 

Honestly, a benevolent dictatorship is probably the best form of government.

Agree with this so much.

Even the personality cult would be a lot of fun!

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[–] WarNeverChanges 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Praise GabeN!

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[–] sophrosynos 0 points 7 points (+7|-0) ago 

Plato was all about this in the Republic. The problem was, according to Plato, the sort of philosopher-king with a 'golden soul' might only appear once every 500 years or so.

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[–] Reow 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

We're set though - there's like 5 of them in this thread ;-)

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[–] thelordofcheese 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

Veidt?

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[–] Sadistic_Bastard 1 points 33 points (+34|-1) ago 

If fair implies he does what's good for the people, then definitely the dictator.

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[–] chags 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

And who is this guy called "people"? The good for one is the unfair for another one.

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[–] Reow 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Also, what's good for 'the people' in the short term isn't necessarily good for them in the long run. E.g. it's easy to borrow money to cover current liabilities, but that can cripple a country for years to come.

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[–] jeegte12 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

and how long does that last? 20 years? 30 years? then what?

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[–] ChillyHellion 1 points 26 points (+27|-1) ago 

Fair dictator, but I don't think anyone on earth would meet that standard. Socialism, communism, and even dictatorship are not bad forms of government if you disregard the abuse of power.

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[–] causuistry 0 points 24 points (+24|-0) ago 

I think the closest was Bhutan. The king, an absolute monarch, had to convince the people to accept democracy.

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[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

That's a really cool read. Thanks for sharing!

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[–] FourNominalCents 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

IMO, he should have convinced them to accept democracy upon his death, or democracy wherein he could tweak the constitution, but his son could not.

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[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

I hadn't heard of this one. That's really cool!

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[–] didntsayeeeee 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

But he wasn't a dictator. Singapore is a democracy. It's just that one party has been doing a sufficiently good job ever since the founding of the country that they haven't bothered to vote for the other guys yet.

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[–] Gileriodekel 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Technically socialism and communism aren't forms of government, they're economic systems. What people refer to as "Communism" when referring to the U.S.S.R. was an authoritarian dictatorship.

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[–] ChillyHellion 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago 

Good distinction, thanks!

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[–] LemurLicker 0 points 19 points (+19|-0) ago 

If it's a true democracy, it could be changed to be fair for the people. When that dictator dies, someone else who is a total dick could come to power.

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[–] anonagent 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Agreed, why is everyone supporting the dictator idea?! wtf

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[–] chieaglin 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Because the question is worded in not such a good way. Of course everyone is going to pick the "fair" option.

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[–] TheHemingWay 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

That's what I was thinking. Christ on a crutch! Who would want to have NO say at all in his government? As a U.S. citizen, I do live in an unfair democracy (disclaimer, disclaimer, disclaimer, etc.), and I wouldn't trade our fucked system for some monarch with a good heart.

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[–] JManSenior918 [S] 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago 

If it's a true democracy, it could be changed to be fair for the people

The reason I asked this question is because the U.S. Has been trying to change for many decades now. We've made small amounts of progress, but by and large not much has changed politically/economically. Would you rather continue with this trend or have a benevolent dictator who can literally change the law, to be what the people want, overnight?

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[–] Fireproofjeans 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

Democracy as a concept only works if all the cards are on the table, the voting citizens are well educated, and most importantly, there's an option that doesn't suck.

As it is, with the US a sadly large portion of voters are undereducated, fed bullshit propaganda by the media, and stirred into a red and blue frenzy. Not to mention the shit being withheld from fucking congress, nevermind the people.

I hate on Canada's rather lacking political landscape quite a bit, but I feel for you guys because you have it so much worse. Up here the old vote for the liberals, the older vote for the conservatives, and my generation had no good options to vote for until the NDP decided to turn down the suck this year.

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[–] Zenhael 0 points 12 points (+12|-0) ago 

'Fair' is a pretty broad word. But even so, I'd go with the dictator.

The longest-surviving civilizations in the history of our planet (that I've heard of) have been ruled by a single figure. These days, the United States is a fine example of a societal hive-mind driving itself into the mud.

Problem is, some of the worst civilizations have also had single rulers sitting up at the top. So there's a number of different ways that such a situation could go.

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[–] RaxSnax 1 points 6 points (+7|-1) ago 

I mean, ruthless bastards or not, the British Empire is probably one of the greatest feats of civilization, next to the Romans. For a period of time, the phrase "the sun never sets on the British Empire" was true. That's pretty fucking impressive if you ask me.

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[–] polytechnique 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Still is true to this day.

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[–] didntsayeeeee 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

And Great Britain has been a democracy for longer than any other country, more or less. It's been "pretty much" a democracy since 1689 or so.

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[–] CarlosShyamalan 0 points 0 points (+0|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Welll the reason Britain was so great for the British was kind of because they exploited the rest of the world so much.

The standard of living in England was so high because people in India and South Africa had to slave for them, without the colonialism it couldnt have been the empire is was. And if it had tried to set the standard of living to be the same in all of their territory, it would have been significantly lower than it was in England.

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[–] SilverBanana 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

The singe figure is like a genetic dice toss. If you end up with a fit dictater, he does not need to consider internal politics, polls, popularity all that much and do stuff that is wise, even if unpopular.

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[–] Zenhael 0 points 4 points (+4|-0) ago 

I agree, more or less.

What you are referring to is 'sanity'. That is a quality that nobody on Earth can certify, rate, quantify, or qualify. Psychology and Psychiatry as professions claim to be able to do so, but cannot. So, you are correct: It is a throw of the dice to see if the ruler you get is somebody that should be in power.

The problem with democracy as a practice, is that it allows a society to avoid or negate any truly difficult sacrifices, while pushing for over-the-ramparts expansion. All take and no give. Witness Greece's recent and ongoing crisis: As a country, the government has had a number of opportunities to rectify their situation (to say nothing of how they arrived in said situation to begin with - democracy and greed) but their 'voting public' crushed them out of a fear of sacrifice.

I think its probably very natural for anybody to fear a loss, whether it be a loss of considerable comfort, life style, rights, family, etc. But sacrifice is a necessary part of life. So when a country finds itself suffering, it should probably start to look at what sacrifices need to be made by the populace, politicians, etc. in order to set things right. And I don't mean, "what political or human rights should the govt. take away from you". I mean comfort of living. In Greece, if the government had cracked down years ago on people dodging their taxes, maybe they wouldn't be quite so bad off as they are. Or if they hadn't wasted their money on government programs that had exponentially higher outgo than income.

So, here in the 'good old USA' maybe we could improve our lot in the future and try to avoid our looming economic crisis by making some sacrifices and difficult choices. What if our politicians didn't reside in mansions and have round-the-clock servants and live like kings? What if the millions being pumped into their bank accounts... wasn't? What if farmers weren't paid to 'not grow crops beyond a certain limit'? What if insane amounts of money weren't spent on space programs, smart phones, or social media? What overall good might this country be able to do with those resources, re-purposed to something more truly vital?

The only thing that stands in the way of such progress is the democratic voters, afraid of sacrifice. A singular and intelligent leader, given the power to make these choices, could bail our country out. And the fearful cries of the uneducated populace would go unheeded, until such a time as they would be proven wrong by the resurgence of their own raised standard of living, however many years down the road.

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[–] ViaAlpina 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago  (edited ago)

If the dictator is someone like Lee Kuan Yew, I'd prefer them to any form of democracy.

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[–] Gerplunckamo 0 points 8 points (+8|-0) ago 

Fair Dictator. At least they're not pretending the people have some semblance of power.

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[–] Vulpyn 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Aladeen.

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[–] DaLoneWanderer 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

You are HIV Aladeen

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[–] didntsayeeeee 0 points 1 points (+1|-0) ago 

:) :( :) :(

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