I find that most Goats agree and are based on pretty much every issue. But there's one in which I see quite a bit of division: Christianity.
It's sort of like a 50/50 divide between:
- Christianity is Truth. Jews try to keep gentiles away from their God.
- Christianity was made up, probably by jews, to control Gentiles.
I myself am not based or red-pilled on this issue, so I would appreciate hearing your opinions and, most of all, strong arguments for one side or the other.
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[–] feral-toes 3 points -1 points 2 points (+2|-3) ago
The stuff that is true is the social teachings. Uphold taboos against fornication, adultery, and divorce, and society will thrive. But if that is the core of Christianity (core as in "for real", rather than inspiring story) then Christianity in UK and USA is dead.
The other big problem is that Darwinism is true. The ancestors of humans, millions of years ago, were animals. Some evolved to become Chimpanzees (still animals). Others evolved to become humans, not animals. But natural selection doesn't have a ratchet, and if it has a sense of direction, it is a feeble thing, too weak to save us.
Without eugenics, humans will likely evolve back into animals. The cities will be abandoned and overgrown. Space aliens might turn up one day, too late to meet humans, and they will notice various species, Chimpmanzees, Gorillans, etc, and try to work out whose distant ancestors had a civilization and lost it.
With eugenics, well, humans are too stupid to do it right, so, err, probably still a disaster, just a different one. I'm feeling pessimistic tonight.
Meanwhile Christians have notions that we don't have to bother about eugenics. Some Christians think that species are separately created and fixed, so there is not a problem. Others think that Christ will return in under a thousand years; there is not enough time for humans to evolve back into animals before God turns up and fixes everything. Still others think that God made every-one equal, in some strong sense, so there is no variation for natural selection to select from (crazy, but shrug).
We need a religion that is inspiring. It also has to be true enough to believe. So it will have to embrace Darwinism and eugenics. It will also need to be humble enough to take a cautious and gentle approach to eugenics least we promptly cause the disaster we are trying to avoid.
With its twin faults of being dead and being false, Christianity has little to offer.
[–] SirNiggsalot 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Evolution is false. Things don't magically become something else over " millions " of years.
[–] feral-toes ago
The evolution of dogs has been much faster. The agricultural revolution wouldn't have been revolutionary if it had taken millions of years. Things change.