Archived Idea Feasability: ''central heat electricity generator'' (AskVoat)
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Archived Idea Feasability: ''central heat electricity generator'' (AskVoat)
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[–] beefartist ago (edited ago)
This is probably the single most useful comment I have ever seen on Voat. In a collapse scenario how long can you run that kind of propane setup and what are the odds of being able to refill or convert to something else? I am not trying to poke holes I really don't have any context to compare that solution to anything else.
[–] pushthis [S] 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
For a propane generator, syngas or hydrogen can be supplemented.
Syngas from a gasifier or specialy designed woodstove. This option would best be implemented while heating an auxillary building, like a work shed or animal enclosure in the dead of winter. Syn gas could be piped in. I wpuldnt leave out a catylitic converter like modern pelletstoves use but pf course a bypass wpuld be needed.
For hydrogen one ought use magnesium hydride in pellet form in a 65-90maxpsi fiberglass(on site constructed tank) that can stay under the home but insulated from ground coldness.: the magnesium hydride acts much lile a sponge and 'soaks' up hydrogen while dropping in temp. This tank needs a PEX tubing circuit of hot water to increase the PSI asso it can be tapped/raise the PSI. This meyhod of hydrogen storage offers better safety and still great capacity.
Also petrol fuels with a carburetor change can run in propane engines,, or at least the oppisite case will
[–] beefartist 0 points 1 point 1 point (+1|-0) ago
Most of that was way over my head other than woodstove and the propane engines...I know of schol buses and cop cars powered by propane but you make it sound simpler than I feel like it is, and I know propane can have issues in extreme cold?
[–] undertheshills ago
Kerosene is the easiest fuel to make and can be made with a pretty basic setup and you can even pull it out of some plastic waste.
[–] Wazhappenin1 ago
500 gallons would last you a long fucking time if you are using it for a few things like a water pump and fridge. Lights would be far too dangerous.but you would have to bury it. Once it's empty it's done unless order is restored! You would need to procure a propane truck. Possible. But way to dangerous. But what a prize if you found one!
You have about 90k btu per gallon so that's 3 hrs at full capacity 1500 hours about 60 days. But that's cranking 10kw an hour. You could probably make 500 gallons last over a year if you are careful. If you are in full austerity mode which would be difficult with wife and kids much longer. The sound would be an issue so sound proofing would be imperative. Plus it's all for nought if you are forced from your home.
We use propane for cooking and I go through 20lbs which is 4.5 gallons in about a month. My wife cooks every single day every meal. So if in the good times a family of five uses 4.5 a month in the bad times cook once a day I could get 4.5 to last 3 months.
I use a small electric water heater to heat my house and when it gets below 20 I have a awesome wood stove! Got it for free! What do you use for heat?