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[–] chubnubbin 0 points 237 points (+237|-0) ago  (edited ago)

https://voat.co/v/mensrights/modlog/bannedusers

You were indeed banned.

I love mod logs on voat.

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[–] codioBunny 0 points 136 points (+136|-0) ago 

Actual accountability? Amazing.

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[–] Dranx 0 points 52 points (+52|-0) ago 

Wow. Thats fucking cool.

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[–] HoneyNutStallmans 0 points 42 points (+42|-0) ago 

Not Safe For Reddit.

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[–] TriumphantDefeat 0 points 3 points (+3|-0) ago  (edited ago)

And transparency! Who would have thought?!?!

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[–] doctor_cucumber 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Speaking of accountability the OP is not the IronJohn from Reddit, but claimed to be the "real" one anyways. Sounds like some impersonation is going on after all.

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[–] HAPPYBEN 0 points 57 points (+57|-0) ago 

impersonating

@CosmicKeys can we get context?

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[–] neuron 2 points 63 points (+65|-2) ago 

Judging by /u/ghotioninabarrel's comment below, /u/IronJohn was actively claiming to be the ironjohn from Reddit. It appears OP is the one who is butthurt, because he got called-out on his behavior.

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[–] Notcow 3 points 33 points (+36|-3) ago 

I mean, it looks legit. He was actually trying to pass himself off as this guy.

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[–] martymcdohl 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago 

I was there earlier today and where @CosmicKeys asked if anyone objected. Users asked for proof but I guess it happened qithout explanation

https://voat.co/v/MensRights/comments/304416/1191084

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[–] Konk 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

God. I consider myself MRA but I just can't ve involved in those online communities. Mensrights on reddit is as toxic as the feminist communities, i definitely don't want to be involved if it's the same on Voat.

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[–] klongtoey ago 

these mod-logs are a pleasure to read https://voat.co/v/fatpeoplehate/modlog/bannedusers

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[–] ghotioninabarrel 2 points 144 points (+146|-2) ago  (edited ago)

Looking at your post history:

Hi, I'm the real IronJohn

Let's get this straight once and for all. I'm the real Iron John

The content of your introductions post especially makes the impersonation claim plausible. Having the username on reddit doesn't entitle the other guy to the name, but when he showed up you could have at least said "not the one from reddit" or something. As it is, you went and called him an impostor at one point. So not too much sympathy.

[–] [deleted] 1 point 37 points (+38|-1) ago 

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[–] IronJohn [S] 7 points 20 points (+27|-7) ago 

those posts were made after IronJohnMRA had already been stalking his posts with "I'm the real IronJohn", so that's probably just a response to that.

That's exactly what I was responding to.

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[–] IronJohn [S] 17 points 22 points (+39|-17) ago 

On Voat, I am the "real" IronJohn. On reddit, he can be the "real" IronJohn. If he didn't have the brains to get off a sinking ship in time, it isn't my problem.

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[–] ghotioninabarrel 2 points 26 points (+28|-2) ago  (edited ago)

When /u/IronJohnMRA came here and found his name taken and the person with that name active in the same community as him, calling himself "the real IronJohn," it was a reasonable assumption that you were impersonating him. When he confronted you, you could have said "I didn't know about you, I got the name from this story and happen to have similar interests." Instead, you seem to have led him on.

And you should know that when you claim to be the "real" someone online, you are claiming to be that identity somewhere else (usually IRL, but another online community could work too). Your initial terminology made you look bad, and your reaction to being confronted was suspicious enough that the ban could be justified. Maybe you're actually innocent, but in that case you should talk to the people involved instead of just dismissing them, you've just made yourself look more guilty by acting like this.

[–] [deleted] 14 points 11 points (+25|-14) ago 

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[–] MaunaLoona 1 point 2 points (+3|-1) ago 

Good on them to ban you. You deserved it.

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[–] Sacrix 2 points 1 point (+3|-2) ago 

On Voat, you are the real asshole, trying to mislead people and getting them on a technicality. Mods were fully in their rights to ban you because it's their sub, and you have absolutely zero ground to stand on for an appeal.

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[–] jcalais 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

This depends on what constitutes being the "real" Iron John. Just because one John was active on Reddit using that name doesn't make him the real one. On Voat, the real Iron John is the one that grabbed the name first.

On the other hand, if the persona "Iron John" is a celebrity (of which I have never heard) and the person described in the Wikipedia article that the "Let's get this straight" -post links to, then I think it is in fact impersonating and bann-worthy if /u/IronJohn here at Voat isn't that person.

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[–] gatordontplaythatsht 1 point 82 points (+83|-1) ago 

You're posting seems to definitely come off as you actively trolling him. I don't know if you knew him prior and intentionally took the name to troll and frankly I don't care, but all the "I'm the REAL IronJohn" posts come off as you trying to appear to be him, whether you intend that or not. To the outside reader it definitely appears like you're attempting to impersonate him in the sneakiest way you can without directly saying you're him from reddit. I think it's shitty for sure, but I don't think you should've been banned, a simple *not ironjohn from reddit tag would've sufficed, or the reddit ironjohn could have simply made a post informing people of his actual account here.

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[–] MateoJones 0 points 15 points (+15|-0) ago 

No, I'm Dirty Dan!

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[–] KommMaster 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

No, you're MateoJones. I'm dirty dan.

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[–] revofire 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Can I be Pinhead Larry then?

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[–] MrNPC ago 

I'm Spartacus

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[–] Number1dududuNumber1 0 points 11 points (+11|-0) ago 

But if nobody knows, nor cares, who IronJohn is then the person with the account named 'IronJohn' must be the "real" one in terms of account name.

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[–] ginger-saurus-rex ago 

You are posting seems to definitely come off as you actively trolling him?

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[–] Ina_Pickle 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago 

That makes no sense. WHy? Because IronJohn's name is older than IronJohnMRA. He couldn't possibly have "taken this name to troll the other guy".

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[–] gatordontplaythatsht 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago 

Sure he could if he knew him from other sites. IronJohnMRA claims to have been active on a similar forum for 9 years. This reeks of a petty beef that this dude is using to troll IronJohnMRA and makes perfect sense, did you go back and read the guys posts, he was obviously trolling and trying to get at IronJohnMRA.

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[–] thuvia_1 0 points 39 points (+39|-0) ago 

what the fuck is so special about being called IronJohn?

[–] [deleted] 0 points 35 points (+35|-0) ago 

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[–] imvii 0 points 6 points (+6|-0) ago 

Good show. Lots of tits. The king dies. Very sad.

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[–] ScreaminMime 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

Oz, are you talking about Oz?

I LOVED THAT SHO... you're not talking about Oz are you?

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[–] anonymous-coward 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

Yessss! I have been watching this show on HBO and couldn't remember the name - Game of Johns. Shit, I better get on it and register that nick name before the 'real' Game_of_Johns comes along...

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[–] ThizzBoss 1 point 5 points (+6|-1) ago 

calm down immediately

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[–] HappyExile 4 points 30 points (+34|-4) ago 

  1. There are no real rules about moderation either — enjoy your ban.

[–] [deleted] 3 points 1 point (+4|-3) ago 

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[–] [deleted] 0 points 9 points (+9|-0) ago 

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[–] Sacrix ago 

It doesn't. Moderators are free to ban whoever they like for whatever they like. The freedom resides not in the user versus the moderator, but in the fact that users can create new subverses if they want or choose existing alternatives, and rule their subverses how they please. It would only be an issue if it was an admin doing this.

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[–] [deleted] 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

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[–] wolflink009 4 points 27 points (+31|-4) ago 

It's their subverse they can do what they want, simple as that.

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[–] tictac 0 points 5 points (+5|-0) ago  (edited ago)

Your phrasing reminds me of Rimmer's speech to Lister in the Red Dwarf episode "Future Echoes" (Red Dwarf s01e02) at 19:08...

In this episode, our heroes are seeing echoes of the future, as the immense mining ship Red Dwarf is approaching the speed of light. Rimmer witnesses a future event which foretells of Lister's death. The pertinent part of the conversation is:

"Poppycock! It will be happened. It shall be going to be happening . It will be was an event that could/will have been taking place in the future. Simple as that."

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[–] gatordontplaythatsht 0 points 2 points (+2|-0) ago 

I love red dwarf.

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[–] Ken_Trough 9 points 20 points (+29|-9) ago 

You've been on voat for two months. IronJohn has been on reddit for 4 years, a large fact you neglected to mention. You even go out of your way to troll him.

You took someone else's name at another site and registered it here first, but you are the imitator, sir, and a whiner to boot. I have zero sympathy for you.

From http://reddit.com/u/ironjohn
1 link karma
413 comment karma
redditor for 4 years

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[–] SwimmingInAFishbowl 0 points 36 points (+36|-0) ago 

Who someone was somewhere else is completely irrelevant. Usernames are not IP.

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[–] Detry 1 point 3 points (+4|-1) ago  (edited ago)

Very true, but from the information gleaned so far it's fairly easy to conclude that the ban had reasonable justification.

I'd ban both the fuckers and be done with it.

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[–] Ken_Trough 0 points 1 point (+1|-0) ago 

My point was about the guy complaining he was "original". He missed that boat by quite a long time. The guy who registered the name first here at cost should get it. He just shouldn't be a butthurt complainer.

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[–] gatordontplaythatsht 5 points 1 point (+6|-5) ago 

Until they attempt to impersonate the person...

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[–] Ina_Pickle 1 point 22 points (+23|-1) ago 

No one here gives two shits about Reddit username history.

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[–] Ken_Trough ago 

My point was on originality. That's all. The first one to register a name should get it of course.

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[–] [deleted] 0 points 20 points (+20|-0) ago 

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[–] Ken_Trough 2 points -2 points (+0|-2) ago  (edited ago)

I'm not accusing him of stealing the name. He registered it first at voat and should be able to keep it. Just saying he doesn't have grounds to complain as the other guy has had the moniker for over four years elsewhere.

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[–] IronJohn [S] 7 points 14 points (+21|-7) ago  (edited ago)

You've been on voat for two months. IronJohn has been on reddit for 4 years, a large fact you neglected to mention

Try and make some sense, son. I don't know who that chump is, I never saw him on reddit, and why does the existence of a username there automatically reserve it here? Frankly, if his username is so fucking precious to him, I'll sell it to him for $10,000.

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[–] gatordontplaythatsht 8 points 3 points (+11|-8) ago 

Try and make some sense, son. I don't know who that chump is, I never saw him on reddit

Yeah sorry, definitely don't believe you. A person telling that story wouldn't have played this out like you did. You should just admit you were trolling and move on, no sympathy from anyone here.

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[–] Ken_Trough 1 point 0 points (+1|-1) ago  (edited ago)

I didn't say you don't get the name here. You registered it first. Just quit bitching that you are the "original". You missed that by over four years is all. Quit being a butthurt troll. You got the name. Appeal your ban and get on with your day.

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[–] Sacrix 4 points -3 points (+1|-4) ago 

If you weren't such an asshole making threads all over claiming to be the "real" [insert username], instead of just ignoring it - which you should have done for the current comment of yours to hold any ground, then people might have taken you seriously. Now, you're just a pathetic troll and I fully support the mod banning you for being such an annoying twat trying to impersonate someone from a different site.

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